Political Discussions for "Adults"

Anteater · 03-05-2020, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

look at the numbers

the margin Bernie wins the youth vote by is 95% in some places

Yeah but that doesn't explain why he won California over Biden or some of these other states. If youth turnout is uniformly low, then that means he's being propelled primarily by other demographics.

WWWP · 03-05-2020, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

California is California

it's the most liberal state in the country

Hot take

~~jwb~~ · 03-05-2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

look at the numbers

the margin Bernie wins the youth vote by is 95% in some places

anecdotally I have not talked to a single Biden supporter...because everyone I know is under 35

Yeah , though this is assuming their politics never change throughout their lifetime

I do think the potential for a Bernie type candidate to win is increasing over time... But as of now I just am not aware of who that could be.

~~jwb~~ · 03-05-2020, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I won't be voting for Biden(if he's the nominee) because he's not about to win Texas anyway

when I voted for Hillary I was in a swing state and felt good about electing (lol) the first female president even though she wasn't my first choice

I think this is considered a swing state but my rationalization for skipping it is always that one vote doesn't matter and also if Biden is in I don't really want him to win. Same with Hillary. Will probably lie and tell my family I voted though.

~~jwb~~ · 03-05-2020, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Florida was a swing state but idk if it still is really

I think it's gone, seems like Democrats will win Texas again before they win Florida

but who the **** knows

what do you figure has changed?

NC it's technically a swing state too but I'm pretty confident Trump will win pretty much the entire South.

~~jwb~~ · 03-05-2020, 10:40 AM

I don't think so, with regard to Florida. It's been a swing state for as long as I remember. It was never solidly blue. And in terms of state government it's always been red from what I recall.

1) I don't believe that snow birds moving down there is any sort of new thing or that it's changed much in recent years. If anything it slowed down due to rising real estate prices and the housing crash.

2) If you look at the map for the results, Trump lost in South Florida by a significant margin. He lost the county he has his resort in, Palm Beach. He lost in Orlando and Tampa areas. He won the state by a little less than 1%, which is around what Obama won by in 2012. It's likely that Hillary could've won Florida if she was an even slightly better candidate.

~~jwb~~ · 03-05-2020, 10:54 AM

Also according to Google Trump won Texas by 9%. I don't see Bernie changing that.

And Bernie would probably do worse in Florida than a moderate would by scaring the old people and alienating the Cuban and Venezuelan refugees who have a visceral reaction to the word socialism.

~~jwb~~ · 03-05-2020, 12:01 PM

Public Enemy fires Flavor Flav after dispute over Bernie Sanders rally

lol

~~jwb~~ · 03-05-2020, 01:32 PM

I think I heard Michigan's gov just endorsed Biden

Warren needs to endorse Bernie and Bernie needs to take off the kids gloves with Biden and stop preambling every meek attack on Biden with "Joe's a good friend of mine." No he's not. Grow a pair ffs.

OccultHawk · 03-05-2020, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

very true

but would it even help

only hope is all of the Warren support goes to Bernie which I find p unlikely

It’s over

It’s America

03-05-2020, 10:40 AM	#4556 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I don't think so, with regard to Florida. It's been a swing state for as long as I remember. It was never solidly blue. And in terms of state government it's always been red from what I recall. 1) I don't believe that snow birds moving down there is any sort of new thing or that it's changed much in recent years. If anything it slowed down due to rising real estate prices and the housing crash. 2) If you look at the map for the results, Trump lost in South Florida by a significant margin. He lost the county he has his resort in, Palm Beach. He lost in Orlando and Tampa areas. He won the state by a little less than 1%, which is around what Obama won by in 2012. It's likely that Hillary could've won Florida if she was an even slightly better candidate.

03-05-2020, 10:54 AM	#4557 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Also according to Google Trump won Texas by 9%. I don't see Bernie changing that. And Bernie would probably do worse in Florida than a moderate would by scaring the old people and alienating the Cuban and Venezuelan refugees who have a visceral reaction to the word socialism.

03-05-2020, 12:01 PM	#4558 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Public Enemy fires Flavor Flav after dispute over Bernie Sanders rally lol

03-05-2020, 01:32 PM	#4559 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I think I heard Michigan's gov just endorsed Biden Warren needs to endorse Bernie and Bernie needs to take off the kids gloves with Biden and stop preambling every meek attack on Biden with "Joe's a good friend of mine." No he's not. Grow a pair ffs.