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Old 01-01-2020, 03:53 PM   #4431 (permalink)
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Do you think he's smart enough to keep us out?
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 01-01-2020, 04:12 PM   #4432 (permalink)
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I think he scurred.

We got too many wars to fight.
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Old 01-01-2020, 04:14 PM   #4433 (permalink)
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He wants to seem tough but not get into an actual fight. Everything's a "negotiation" to him.
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Old 01-01-2020, 04:25 PM   #4434 (permalink)
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It's hard to look tough while looking like you're ducking a war. Obama looked like a bitch for trying to duck Syria. Clinton looked like a bitch for trying to duck Kosovo. There was a whole lot going on that made those wars something the public didn't want but Obama and Clinton still looked like bitches.
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No modern American president has ever been afraid to start a war.
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Old 01-01-2020, 04:33 PM   #4436 (permalink)
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I just pointed out two instances. Try to keep up.
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It's hard to look tough while looking like you're ducking a war. Obama looked like a bitch for trying to duck Syria. Clinton looked like a bitch for trying to duck Kosovo. There was a whole lot going on that made those wars something the public didn't want but Obama and Clinton still looked like bitches.
Yea he could definitely stumble into a war via posturing, also there are people around him who definitely want a war. But his inclination is not to start one but to bluff. You can tell by his answer when the cnn reporter asked him about it he said he doubts Iran really wants a war. If he wanted to hype it up he would do so. Trump isn't once to mince words for the most part.
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I just pointed out two instances. Try to keep up.
Were Obama and Clinton in the infantry or something?
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Old 01-01-2020, 05:05 PM   #4439 (permalink)
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Yea he could definitely stumble into a war via posturing, also there are people around him who definitely want a war. But his inclination is not to start one but to bluff. You can tell by his answer when the cnn reporter asked him about it he said he doubts Iran really wants a war. If he wanted to hype it up he would do so. Trump isn't once to mince words for the most part.
I mean if he knew how to mince words I'm sure he would. I suspect his bluntness is largely based on him not being good at subtlety. Anyone who lies like he does who was good at subtlety would do it.

I don't think he's trying for a war though, but if he feels like the situation is getting away from him and his only option to save face is to start pounding the podium and demanding the Ayatollah's head on a plate he'd do it in a heartbeat.

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Were Obama and Clinton in the infantry or something?
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I mean if he knew how to mince words I'm sure he would. I suspect his bluntness is largely based on him not being good at subtlety. Anyone who lies like he does who was good at subtlety would do it.

I don't think he's trying for a war though, but if he feels like the situation is getting away from him and his only option to save face is to start pounding the podium and demanding the Ayatollah's head on a plate he'd do it in a heartbeat.
Oh I don't think he's against it on principle, I think he sees it as political suicide based on the last couple of wars. He could easily find himself in a position where iran either makes him look weak or he has to put his money where his mouth is.

But as far as revving up for the election. He already has all the reason in the world to cling to this issue and hype it up in order to deflect from impeachment. The fact he would say something that deescalates the tension (that he doesn't believe iran wants war) instead of instantly going into beef mode and doubling down like trump usually does indicates clearly what his preference is. You can see the same thing with regard to NK. Trump has too many potential battles on his hands to be in war mode right now.
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