Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 02-05-2020, 09:41 PM

I’ve never felt less respect for the press treating this impeachment like it’s a real story. Trump acquitted? What’s the next big drama? Will baseball be played next spring?

OccultHawk · 02-05-2020, 09:42 PM

And goddamn how much lead is in the water in Iowa?

The Batlord · 02-05-2020, 09:54 PM

When I hear people saying this whole impeachment was pointless because our political system is too corrupt to kick out a member of their own party as if it's a reason not to hold an impeachment rather than a reason to shoot all of them in the head and hang their bodies from street lights as a warning to the people we elect to replace them I wonder just once more how stupid the human race really is.

Anteater · 02-05-2020, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

When I hear people saying this whole impeachment was pointless because our political system is too corrupt to kick out a member of their own party as if it's a reason not to hold an impeachment rather than a reason to shoot all of them in the head and hang their bodies from street lights as a warning to the people we elect to replace them I wonder just once more how stupid the human race really is.

Trump is just a blunt instrument that the GOP are forced to use in battle with great reluctance. He gets the job done, but he's not really what they want. The effort they'd have to put in to get rid of him, cover it up and subsequently replace him with Pence is evidently out of scope.

debaserr · 02-06-2020, 09:16 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/u...donations.html

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Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont raised $25 million in January, his campaign said on Thursday, a staggering sum that gives him an enviable financial advantage at a crucial moment in the Democratic primary race.

The $25 million haul is more money than any other candidate raised in any full quarter during 2019, including several presidential hopefuls who hold the big-dollar fund-raisers that Mr. Sanders forgoes. The announcement is the latest sign of an epochal change in money in politics, with candidates now able to finance a top-tier national campaign fueled by masses of donors giving a steady stream of small amounts.

The Batlord · 02-06-2020, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

when they knew the Senate hearing would be a joke there was no reason to let it happen

Democrats are dumb dumbs, should have sat on the articles in Congress

And done what with them?

The Batlord · 02-06-2020, 10:34 AM

Yeah go dems I guess.

TheBig3 · 02-06-2020, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

When I hear people saying this whole impeachment was pointless because our political system is too corrupt to kick out a member of their own party as if it's a reason not to hold an impeachment rather than a reason to shoot all of them in the head and hang their bodies from street lights as a warning to the people we elect to replace them I wonder just once more how stupid the human race really is.

These are traditionally people who think that facts=truths and that politics is beneath them. The verdict in the impeachment is almost irrelevant and I think Pelosi played this perfectly.

She waited until enough people got the gist, then pulled the trigger. We held this singular issue - the one people understood Trump was wrong on - in the news for longer than anything else has been in the news. Which means it's now held in the minds of the voter. She also knew that he, Trump, would do nothing to help his case in the remaining months between now and the election.

Furthermore, Bolton not testifying. And Romney making the Republican case against acquittal, only worsened the outcome. The Senate is in play, and if Doug Jones loses, I think this whole exchange will also boot Susan Collins and Corey Gardner.

Not to mention that Trump is a candidate (as we saw in 2018) who animates his opposition. And since he's directly involved in this race, it's going to be a disaster. Worse still is that if Biden or Warren aren't on the ticket, the ammunition the GOP has built up against them is gone. I'm a likely Bernie supporter, but if Mayor Pete gets the nomination, it's going to look like a race between an articulate veteran vs. a dying stroke victim.

The impeachment is a slow moving disater for the Trump Administration.

~~jwb~~ · 02-06-2020, 12:43 PM

Google has the Iowa caucus results at 96% districts reporting with mayor Pete and Bernie virtually tied:

Pete: 26.2%, 11 delegates
Bernie: 26.1%, 11 delegates

Supposedly Bernie had a clear win in the popular vote

And now I'm hearing the DNC wants to recanvass??

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/io...-primary-02-06

Dumb move trusting Iowans to use an app. This is Florida in 2000 all over again.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

These are traditionally people who think that facts=truths and that politics is beneath them. The verdict in the impeachment is almost irrelevant and I think Pelosi played this perfectly.

She waited until enough people got the gist, then pulled the trigger. We held this singular issue - the one people understood Trump was wrong on - in the news for longer than anything else has been in the news. Which means it's now held in the minds of the voter. She also knew that he, Trump, would do nothing to help his case in the remaining months between now and the election.

Furthermore, Bolton not testifying. And Romney making the Republican case against acquittal, only worsened the outcome. The Senate is in play, and if Doug Jones loses, I think this whole exchange will also boot Susan Collins and Corey Gardner.

Not to mention that Trump is a candidate (as we saw in 2018) who animates his opposition. And since he's directly involved in this race, it's going to be a disaster. Worse still is that if Biden or Warren aren't on the ticket, the ammunition the GOP has built up against them is gone. I'm a likely Bernie supporter, but if Mayor Pete gets the nomination, it's going to look like a race between an articulate veteran vs. a dying stroke victim.

The impeachment is a slow moving disater for the Trump Administration.

I don't believe Pete will be the nominee but imo Trump would trounce him

TheBig3 · 02-06-2020, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I don't believe Pete will be the nominee but imo Trump would trounce him

Seems as if you're not alone

https://twitter.com/SpittingBack/sta...777737222?s=20

02-05-2020, 09:41 PM	#4261 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I’ve never felt less respect for the press treating this impeachment like it’s a real story. Trump acquitted? What’s the next big drama? Will baseball be played next spring? __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

02-05-2020, 09:42 PM	#4262 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	And goddamn how much lead is in the water in Iowa? __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html