Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 10-18-2019, 08:50 PM

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yea I have to disagree

They really shouldn't be there in the first place

For someone showing incredible restraint they're doing a hell of a job expanding and wiping out the native population

They still, perhaps ironically, have about 6,000,000 to go.

The gas used to kill the Kurds in Iraq was almost certainly manufactured in America. We were butt-buddies with Saddam then

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...eapons_program

Our great friends the Kurds.

The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 08:53 PM

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It absolutely befuddles me that there’s anyone in the world who doesn’t think Israel has shown incredible restraint. They should have fumigated that place decades ago.

It befuddles me that you consider yourself an anarchist when you're clearly a fascist. The only reason you're against the American right is because they support capitalism and you're incapable of adapting to capitalism. If you could you'd be a diehard Republican.

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To what extent?

You don't remember the early days of the Iraq War when we were all about the Kurds since the Sunnis were seen as the "insurgency", the Shi'ites were seen as exacerbating the sectarian violence via retribution, but the Kurds were the good Iraqis who stood with us and didn't truck with any of that ****?

OccultHawk · 10-18-2019, 08:56 PM

I’d be a hardcore libertarian

~~jwb~~ · 10-18-2019, 08:57 PM

No. I'm not saying you're wrong, I didn't really care much for politics back then. First time I remember us seriously allying with the Kurds militarily was to fight ISIS

This is a good YouTube channel for geopolitics btw

OccultHawk · 10-18-2019, 09:00 PM

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No. I'm not saying you're wrong, I didn't really care much for politics back then. First time I remember us seriously allying with the Kurds militarily was to fight ISIS

We need to reconsider our relationship with ISIS.

The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 09:03 PM

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I’d be a hardcore libertarian

Yes you'd be an embarrassed Republican. And if you were young you'd be a gamer gater.

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No. I'm not saying you're wrong, I didn't really care much for politics back then. First time I remember us seriously allying with the Kurds militarily was to fight ISIS

I believe it was more of the Kurds in the north being a bastion of stability in Iraq who'd put down any insurgency that we were appreciative of than any real joint military thing.

~~jwb~~ · 10-18-2019, 09:10 PM

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We need to reconsider our relationship with ISIS.

Lol

Not serious?

They don't have any desire to be anything other than mortal foes.

~~jwb~~ · 10-18-2019, 09:12 PM

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Yes you'd be an embarrassed Republican. And if you were young you'd be a gamer gater.

I believe it was more of the Kurds in the north being a bastion of stability in Iraq who'd put down any insurgency that we were appreciative of than any real joint military thing.

still, the video is worth watching if you want a break down of the purely cynical geopolitical forces at work in this conflict.

OccultHawk · 10-18-2019, 09:18 PM

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Lol

Not serious?

They don't have any desire to be anything other than mortal foes.

I respect their candor

Huge demonstration in Barcelona. Looks like I’m breaking even having bet on Pitt over Cuse.

The Batlord · 10-18-2019, 09:32 PM

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still, the video is worth watching if you want a break down of the purely cynical geopolitical forces at work in this conflict.

Yeah it's interesting and it always amuses me when the idea of public opinion influences policy even when public opinion amounts to nothing more than people at home who don't know anything screwing up their face and going "I don't like that" and nothing more. If the American public had no place in government decisions then there would be no talk of sanctions and real politik would proceed in at least a relatively consistent manner. But people who claim to care while not actually caring are probably about to tank the economy of people they definitely don't care about while American policy just a week ago implied the exact opposite position (a position which was presumably also influenced or at least justified by public opinion of not wanting to be involved in more Middle Eastern wars).

Democracy is stupid.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	No. I'm not saying you're wrong, I didn't really care much for politics back then. First time I remember us seriously allying with the Kurds militarily was to fight ISIS This is a good YouTube channel for geopolitics btw