Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 10-17-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Pretty sure he's gonna win 2020 in a landslide.

you gonna bet on him?

OccultHawk · 10-17-2019, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

you gonna bet on him?

https://www.oddsshark.com/other/2020...l-odds-futures

Trump +120

long future bets like that are really hard to win

I wouldn’t put my money on it but I think it’s a pretty good bet

~~jwb~~ · 10-17-2019, 02:37 PM

I definitely think trump can win. Being the incumbent, the odds are in his side inherently.

But as for a landslide, I don't see it. I see a narrow race based on the electoral college just like in 2016.

How the whole impeachment thing turns out could be the determining factor.

OccultHawk · 10-17-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I definitely think trump can win. Being the incumbent, the odds are in his side inherently.

But as for a landslide, I don't see it. I see a narrow race based on the electoral college just like in 2016.

How the whole impeachment thing turns out could be the determining factor.

Yeah. The time for that was 3.5 years ago.

This remix is dope af

Anteater · 10-17-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I guess I’m part of the problem because part of me hopes he does. I’m halfway through the last democratic debate and Yang is the only one who sounds like a human. Even if Bernie or Pokey say better **** their robotic on script script memorization **** it’s just like Yang should say the other candidates are obviously robots proof that automation is already very problematic

Part of me wants Yang to win because I know both of the Democrats and Republicans absolutely despise the idea of a guy with a pretty normal background and no political ties actually winning.

Sanders and Warren have had decades in government and neither of their track records impress me. Sanders just hopped between a couple of marriages over a few decades while he spent taxpayer money and Warren lacks the capacity to implement actual solutions to the problem she (generally) is correct at pointing out. They're cowards who chose to run for President now because they didn't have the balls to try decades ago.

Mindy · 10-17-2019, 03:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWLnHmbjPsM

Raime · 10-17-2019, 05:32 PM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1WW15I

Well ****. RIP to a decent congressman.

~~jwb~~ · 10-17-2019, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Part of me wants Yang to win because I know both of the Democrats and Republicans absolutely despise the idea of a guy with a pretty normal background and no political ties actually winning.

Sanders and Warren have had decades in government and neither of their track records impress me. Sanders just hopped between a couple of marriages over a few decades while he spent taxpayer money and Warren lacks the capacity to implement actual solutions to the problem she (generally) is correct at pointing out. They're cowards who chose to run for President now because they didn't have the balls to try decades ago.

I wouldn't mind Yang because I like the idea of UBI but he's a long shot

Sanders is less of a long shot and is trying to get single payer and free college. Idgaf how many girlfriends he's had, in fact I respect him more for it. And the one thing in his political record i respect is that he's been largely consistent for decades in what he stands for and how he votes in Congress. That's a rare quality in a politician. My main concern with him is his health/age.

Warren, I would vote for hoping she tries to live up to at least some of her progressive talking points, while holding my breath because of my inherent skepticism.

Anyone else, I'm not voting. If trump wins then oh well. I've been done with lesser of 2 evils politics since 2012, first time I didn't vote while being eligible. First and last time I voted was 2008.

OccultHawk · 10-17-2019, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I wouldn't mind Yang because I like the idea of UBI but he's a long shot

Sanders is less of a long shot and is trying to get single payer and free college. Idgaf how many girlfriends he's had, in fact I respect him more for it. And the one thing in his political record i respect is that he's been largely consistent for decades in what he stands for and how he votes in Congress. That's a rare quality in a politician. My main concern with him is his health/age.

Warren, I would vote for hoping she tries to live up to at least some of her progressive talking points, while holding my breath because of my inherent skepticism.

Anyone else, I'm not voting. If trump wins then oh well. I've been done with lesser of 2 evils politics since 2012, first time I didn't vote while being eligible. First and last time I voted was 2008.

I 100% respect that.

Sidenote: I don’t think you can live in a crib like sanders does and be a socialist. And yeah that bothers me.

~~jwb~~ · 10-18-2019, 08:04 AM

He's not actually a democratic socialist, he's a suicidal democrat, imo. He's just using the former term maybe cause it appeals more to the far left. But he's pretty transparent what his policies are. I think they're better than what we have.

Can he get them passed? Who knows. I'm willing to gamble. Obama barely got the ACA passed, and Trump couldn't repeal it despite it being the top conservative priority and having Republican control of both house and Senate.

So the idea that biden or anyone else is gonna be more likely to get some moderate form of healthcare than Bernie will with single payer is uncertain. And if you remember back to Obama years... Obamacare was painted as straight up socialism. Death panels and all.

So there's no point trying to be moderate when they will paint you as a socialist either way. That's another party of why I think Bernie and politicians like him embrace the word socialism without being straight up socialists looking to overturn capitalism. It's to reclaim the word as a positive instead of letting it be used strictly as a Boogeyman smear. Bernie is basically the kind of "socialist" that people accused FDR of being. He wants to use tax money to help the lower classes.

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10-17-2019, 02:37 PM	#3953 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I definitely think trump can win. Being the incumbent, the odds are in his side inherently. But as for a landslide, I don't see it. I see a narrow race based on the electoral college just like in 2016. How the whole impeachment thing turns out could be the determining factor.

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Raime Forever Electro Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 511	https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1WW15I Well ****. RIP to a decent congressman.

10-18-2019, 08:04 AM	#3960 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	He's not actually a democratic socialist, he's a suicidal democrat, imo. He's just using the former term maybe cause it appeals more to the far left. But he's pretty transparent what his policies are. I think they're better than what we have. Can he get them passed? Who knows. I'm willing to gamble. Obama barely got the ACA passed, and Trump couldn't repeal it despite it being the top conservative priority and having Republican control of both house and Senate. So the idea that biden or anyone else is gonna be more likely to get some moderate form of healthcare than Bernie will with single payer is uncertain. And if you remember back to Obama years... Obamacare was painted as straight up socialism. Death panels and all. So there's no point trying to be moderate when they will paint you as a socialist either way. That's another party of why I think Bernie and politicians like him embrace the word socialism without being straight up socialists looking to overturn capitalism. It's to reclaim the word as a positive instead of letting it be used strictly as a Boogeyman smear. Bernie is basically the kind of "socialist" that people accused FDR of being. He wants to use tax money to help the lower classes.