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Old 10-03-2019, 09:11 PM   #3731 (permalink)
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I was only ever taking about the mass of accusers of bill Clinton around sexual harassment, abuse, rape etc.

While we all can probably glean that Clinton was probably a part of the whole Epstein scandal, and so was Trump, that's not what he attacked Clinton for and iirc there are no specific allegations from any victim that specifically relates to the Epstein case for either one of them.
Like that would stop Trump from using "Epstein" and "Killary" in the same sentence.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:39 PM   #3732 (permalink)
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Yeah, and she's strategically cosying up with the establishment

Pragmatic = she's playing the typical Washington game

I would like to think she will do something different but I have a hard time believing she can co-opt the establishment to fulfill a progressive agenda

That's sorta the same naive mistake that Obama made.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:40 PM   #3733 (permalink)
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Warren advertises herself as populist but pragmatic
She’s a pandering **** but unbelievably for once someone with a chance is pandering in my direction. Her policies, if implemented, would improve my life. JWB is probably right she’d get in there and just pander to the capitalist war machine if she really got elected but wtf I’ll vote for her. It looks like I’m either voting for her Trump or just not voting again

If the Dems put up a centrist I’m voting Trump
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:42 PM   #3734 (permalink)
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Yeah, and she's strategically cosying up with the establishment

Pragmatic = she's playing the typical Washington game

I would like to think she will do something different but I have a hard time believing she can co-opt the establishment to fulfill a progressive agenda

That's sorta the same naive mistake that Obama made.
I don’t remember Obama ever campaigning on any progressive platform.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:52 PM   #3735 (permalink)
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For the time he was reasonably progressive in his rhetoric, and made a bunch of promises that i believe he meant but didn't realize that he wasn't gonna be able to pull it off
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:09 AM   #3738 (permalink)
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The kid next to me in the dishroom who doesn’t even **** with politics is a real socialist. The Senator with a mansion in the most prestigious all white ultra-rich gated neighborhood in Vermont isn’t. That’s wut.
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I was only ever taking about the mass of accusers of bill Clinton around sexual harassment, abuse, rape etc.

While we all can probably glean that Clinton was probably a part of the whole Epstein scandal, and so was Trump, that's not what he attacked Clinton for and iirc there are no specific allegations from any victim that specifically relates to the Epstein case for either one of them.

You make the mistake of underestimating how bold Trump is. Batlord is 100% right because Trump's already done it.

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