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09-27-2019, 07:17 PM | #3581 (permalink) | |
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Biden and his son are dirty in the Ukraine too though. But you're insane to think this isn't worthy of impeachment. |
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09-27-2019, 07:28 PM | #3583 (permalink) | |
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It's not the first thing worthy of impeachment and I'm sure it won't be the last. Donald Trump is incapable of controlling his own behavior. But so long as the Democrats don't control the Senate that's a moot point and I doubt the American public will be all that amazed by anything considering what they've shrugged their shoulders about thus far. So I really don't see any winning endgame here for the Democrats. At best they'll exchange pointless broadsides that will result in a political stalemate. But they'll probably just embolden the opposition while pointing out some stupid **** Biden did.
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09-27-2019, 07:30 PM | #3584 (permalink) | |
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An impeachment isn't politics. It's TV. There's plenty of actual politics that goes on in Washington but by the time it gets to the point of impeachment the politics is already decided and its the TV audience who are the point.
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09-27-2019, 07:33 PM | #3585 (permalink) | |
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Yea impeachment arguably helped Clinton's image But it destroyed Nixon. The devil is in the details. I don't think it's necessary they actually remove him from office via impeachment. The worse they can make him look before the election, the better for them. The only real risk is that the American people percieve it as an arbitrary witch-hunt like they did with Clinton and then it backfires. |
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09-27-2019, 07:44 PM | #3586 (permalink) |
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I honestly have gotten to the point where part of me thinks he's too dangerous to leave in office, and the other part thinks that if the Dems got someone like Biden in that i would almost prefer Trump because at least he is stirring up genuine opposition.
Like I gave up on american politics by 2012. Can you imagine we would even possibly be debating things like single payer, free college, reparations, UBI if that mullet head fembot Hillary won in 2016? It would be business as usual. But the danger he represents is the precedents he sets. Like you said if he is that invincible... You really think he'll be the last one to exploit that? Presidents are getting stronger and more powerful with each successive generation. Once you summon that genie there's no putting it back in the bottle. Last edited by jwb; 09-27-2019 at 07:51 PM. |
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09-27-2019, 08:04 PM | #3590 (permalink) | |
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So yes it's more than just the chastisement they could do without an impeachment inquiry. It will presumably make it harder for the white House to stone wall to the same extent. Like ant mentioned why not go after his tax returns... They have been, in rhetoric. Trump just stone walls. They will never socially pressure him into divulging anything he doesn't have to. They have to turn up the actual legal pressure. Last edited by jwb; 09-27-2019 at 08:11 PM. |
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