Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

And as a Catholic there can be no doubt he raped little boys.

eh.. gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2019, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I don't that deserves a Nobel prize.

I mean in terms of presidents that's up there. We were on a crash course for war with Russia and he avoided it. That would've been ww3/ possible annihilation.

If you are interested there's a good podcast on the subject by Dan Carlin.

And for FDR... Not only did he introduce American socialism but he also rightly recognized that the Nazis couldn't be ignored. We were very inclined to do so because of ww1. That would've been a big mistake.

The Batlord · 09-22-2019, 07:56 PM

He did start our involvement in Vietnam. Not really in the spirit of peace.

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2019, 07:58 PM

Yeh won't argue that.

But avoiding the big war is a very underrated achievement. Cause people don't tend to notice things you don't do. But we were very close to all out war with Russia and a different president would've made the difference.

OccultHawk · 09-22-2019, 07:59 PM

We were sided with the French who were marching around with guillotines cutting off people’s heads in a country they had no business in.

The Batlord · 09-22-2019, 08:00 PM

Was he responsible for putting nukes in... was it Turkey (maybe?) that pissed off the Soviets to get them to put nukes in Cuba? If it was then no peace prize.

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2019, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Was he responsible for putting nukes in... was it Turkey (maybe?) that pissed off the Soviets to get them to put nukes in Cuba? If it was then no peace prize.

I mean probably but the escalation of tensions didn't start there either. Things were proggresively heating between both sides for some time.

~~jwb~~ · 09-22-2019, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Ye but he was under tremendous Union pressure on account of his policy actions

or at the very least the unions were the muscle that let FDR go to the buiz class and say "you're going to shut up and take it if you want to keep your positions"

so?

The Batlord · 09-22-2019, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I mean probably but the escalation of tensions didn't start there either. Things were proggresively heating between both sides for some time.

I think enabling the continuation of an arms race that could literally annihilate everything but the cockroaches and maybe even the cockroaches isn't very peaceful.

OccultHawk · 09-22-2019, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Was he responsible for putting nukes in... was it Turkey (maybe?) that pissed off the Soviets to get them to put nukes in Cuba? If it was then no peace prize.

Of course no ****ing peace prize. Yes he did that. And it’s none of our business what sort of defense Cuba has or accepts. Unless we consider them less human than we are there’s no moral justification for objecting to nuclear proliferation while we have always had the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and have proven to be the only country with the cowardice and moral emptiness to actually use them - on civilian targets even. So really **** JFK (thank you Oswald) **** Truman **** FDR (glad he had polio - crippled bitch)

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09-22-2019, 07:58 PM	#3514 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yeh won't argue that. But avoiding the big war is a very underrated achievement. Cause people don't tend to notice things you don't do. But we were very close to all out war with Russia and a different president would've made the difference.