Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 10-03-2019, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I was talking about the Epstein **** actually.

I was only ever taking about the mass of accusers of bill Clinton around sexual harassment, abuse, rape etc.

While we all can probably glean that Clinton was probably a part of the whole Epstein scandal, and so was Trump, that's not what he attacked Clinton for and iirc there are no specific allegations from any victim that specifically relates to the Epstein case for either one of them.

OccultHawk · 10-03-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I was only ever taking about the mass of accusers of bill Clinton around sexual harassment, abuse, rape etc.

While we all can probably glean that Clinton was probably offset it the whole Epstein scandal, and dry was Trump, that's not what he attacked Clinton for and iirc there are no specific allegations from any victim that specifically relates to the Epstein case.

Yabut... they both went to pedo island and got up in some 13 year old ass

You can see it in their eyes

~~jwb~~ · 10-03-2019, 08:11 PM

Yea but unless you can substantiate that with at least an accuser to drag into the mix that won't mean much in the campaign trail

The Batlord · 10-03-2019, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I was only ever taking about the mass of accusers of bill Clinton around sexual harassment, abuse, rape etc.

While we all can probably glean that Clinton was probably a part of the whole Epstein scandal, and so was Trump, that's not what he attacked Clinton for and iirc there are no specific allegations from any victim that specifically relates to the Epstein case for either one of them.

Like that would stop Trump from using "Epstein" and "Killary" in the same sentence.

~~jwb~~ · 10-03-2019, 08:39 PM

Yeah, and she's strategically cosying up with the establishment

Pragmatic = she's playing the typical Washington game

I would like to think she will do something different but I have a hard time believing she can co-opt the establishment to fulfill a progressive agenda

That's sorta the same naive mistake that Obama made.

OccultHawk · 10-03-2019, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Warren advertises herself as populist but pragmatic

She’s a pandering **** but unbelievably for once someone with a chance is pandering in my direction. Her policies, if implemented, would improve my life. JWB is probably right she’d get in there and just pander to the capitalist war machine if she really got elected but wtf I’ll vote for her. It looks like I’m either voting for her Trump or just not voting again

If the Dems put up a centrist I’m voting Trump

OccultHawk · 10-03-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Yeah, and she's strategically cosying up with the establishment

Pragmatic = she's playing the typical Washington game

I would like to think she will do something different but I have a hard time believing she can co-opt the establishment to fulfill a progressive agenda

That's sorta the same naive mistake that Obama made.

I don’t remember Obama ever campaigning on any progressive platform.

~~jwb~~ · 10-03-2019, 08:52 PM

For the time he was reasonably progressive in his rhetoric, and made a bunch of promises that i believe he meant but didn't realize that he wasn't gonna be able to pull it off

Psy-Fi · 10-04-2019, 04:55 AM

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I'm a democratic socialist.

- Bernie Sanders

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Capitalist to my bones.

- Elizabeth Warren

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OccultHawk · 10-04-2019, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi

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Sanders can’t have it both ways. His Vermont estate is stolen property under any remotely honest socialist ideology. He doesn’t live like the people or with the people and a man is what he does. Bernie does millionaire **** in a mansion. He eats the same ****ing steak Donald eats.

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10-03-2019, 08:11 PM	#3383 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yea but unless you can substantiate that with at least an accuser to drag into the mix that won't mean much in the campaign trail

10-03-2019, 08:39 PM	#3385 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yeah, and she's strategically cosying up with the establishment Pragmatic = she's playing the typical Washington game I would like to think she will do something different but I have a hard time believing she can co-opt the establishment to fulfill a progressive agenda That's sorta the same naive mistake that Obama made.

10-03-2019, 08:52 PM	#3388 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	For the time he was reasonably progressive in his rhetoric, and made a bunch of promises that i believe he meant but didn't realize that he wasn't gonna be able to pull it off