Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 08-25-2019, 03:53 AM

Actually, that is how lame goths are

The Batlord · 08-25-2019, 05:01 PM

What is your position on cyber goths?

**Frownland** · 08-25-2019, 05:01 PM

I bet Yang isn't even down to sack Rome, what a ****ing poseur.

~~jwb~~ · 08-25-2019, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I read this post from a guy who said he wanted to "come out" as goth to his parents and I thought that was pretty lame

it's not a group like lgbt

it's just an alternative Dance Club scene

I read this post from some retired vet saying he wished his goth son would just hurry up and come out as gay already.

OccultHawk · 08-25-2019, 05:29 PM

On Fareed GPS today two guests made a great case for doing away with time zones and putting the entire planet Greenwich Mean Time

It would make international travel and communication far easier

Airline pilots already do it.

Anteater · 08-25-2019, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

"Capitalism may want to rank you, but you are an individual"

he hardcore dunks on public education here OH

He's right but I'd argue that bad parenting and a lack of mentorship outside of education are also massive factors.

There are certain career paths you can dive into where arguments about meritocracy do apply. You want to work on cars for a living, but then you flunk out of trade school because you just don't do due diligence, decide to smoke weed instead of showing up to learn, etc. etc. Individual choice does play into outcome in society at some level.

Good video.

~~jwb~~ · 08-25-2019, 05:52 PM

Virtually every field is competitive based on merit to some degree

The reason that it's not so simple that people are neatly organized in a heirarchy based on merit is that we all have different hang ups and different starting circumstances.

OccultHawk · 08-25-2019, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

He's right but I'd argue that bad parenting and a lack of mentorship outside of education are also massive factors.

There are certain career paths you can dive into where arguments about meritocracy do apply. You want to work on cars for a living, but then you flunk out of trade school because you just don't do due diligence, decide to smoke weed instead of showing up to learn, etc. etc. Individual choice does play into outcome in society at some level.

Good video.

I like being MB allies with you but it doesn’t seem like you actually understood what he was saying.

The Batlord · 08-25-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Virtually every field is competitive based on merit to some degree

The reason that it's not so simple that people are neatly organized in a heirarchy based on merit is that we all have different hang ups and different starting circumstances.

"To some degree" is doing a lot of legwork in that post.

Anteater · 08-25-2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I like being MB allies with you but it doesn’t seem like you actually understood what he was saying.

I did understand it. He blatantly ignores the role of the family and other factors and tries to use public education as the sole point of argument. I just don't agree with his overall assessment as someone who jumped around multiple career paths before I got into technology.

The point that I do agree with him on is that public education needs to be re-tooled because a curriculum isn't geared around giving kids the right "starting point" (mentally or otherwise) to look at society and figure out how to embrace their passions effectively. Everything ultimately revolves around useless measuring sticks like the SAT instead of something more practical.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Virtually every field is competitive based on merit to some degree The reason that it's not so simple that people are neatly organized in a heirarchy based on merit is that we all have different hang ups and different starting circumstances.