Political Discussions for "Adults"

Lucem Ferre · 08-13-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I've been targeted and attacked many times for being white. So I suppose white people are a marginalized group now?

In some places, yes.

~~jwb~~ · 08-13-2019, 03:06 PM

And I don't disagree with it. I think way more people are bi or capable of being bi and just don't know it though. But bi at least means something specific. You sleep with both sexes. The non binary thing is more ambiguous. The difference between a cis Tom boy and a non binary female is a matter of semantics and which label you embrace.

**Marie Monday** · 08-13-2019, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

The difference between a cis Tom boy and a non binary female is a matter of semantics and which label you embrace.

I'm a cis tomboy and I don't think that's true. There's a subtle difference

~~jwb~~ · 08-13-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie

I'm a cis tomboy and I don't think that's true. There's a subtle difference

if you decided you were not binary I probably couldn't tell the difference

**Marie Monday** · 08-13-2019, 03:21 PM

I think the subtlety arises because we experience our gender in many layers. The first is obviously our sex, there's also an obvious layer of superficial conventions: how we dress, act, our interests, etc. I think that there's something in between though, a part of our gender that's mainly sexual (but not our sexual orientation). I think that's part of why I, and many other young tomboys, come to identify themselves pretty unambiguously as female once they reach puberty. I'm not sure though and I need to go to sleep so maybe I'll read this tomorrow and be like 'what'

~~jwb~~ · 08-13-2019, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I guess I don't see who benefits from assuming bad intent

a false positive in this case hurts no one, a false negative contributes to a type of culture that has disheartening rates of trans suicide

discrimination and exclusion for anyone who isn't cis gender is very real, and maybe you're living in a fortunately progressive place to not be aware of that

also I prefer to listen listen to the experiences of marginalized groups directly instead of demanding they prove themselves to me with "Science" or whatever, it's not really important whether I understand it

I don't demand anything of them

I'm just being honest about how I see it. I believe it's trending and people are jumping on the bandwagon. Not like that means I want to treat them any differently.

What do you think about otherkin?

~~jwb~~ · 08-13-2019, 03:32 PM

Do you buy that they maybe should've been born a different species?

~~jwb~~ · 08-13-2019, 03:51 PM

Yet that is largely what they proclaim and is what their actions seem geared towards

Eg injecting hormones of the opposite sex, plastic surgery designed to mimic the opposite sex, etc

The Batlord · 08-13-2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't judge

solidarity with anyone who's different, weird, queer, whatever as long as they give it back

Furries?

The Batlord · 08-13-2019, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

as long as they're not having sex with actual animals which would be rape

I only draw the line at bad tastes in music, that I can not abide

is it ok to screw animals?

08-13-2019, 03:06 PM	#3112 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	And I don't disagree with it. I think way more people are bi or capable of being bi and just don't know it though. But bi at least means something specific. You sleep with both sexes. The non binary thing is more ambiguous. The difference between a cis Tom boy and a non binary female is a matter of semantics and which label you embrace.

08-13-2019, 03:32 PM	#3117 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Do you buy that they maybe should've been born a different species?

08-13-2019, 03:51 PM	#3118 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yet that is largely what they proclaim and is what their actions seem geared towards Eg injecting hormones of the opposite sex, plastic surgery designed to mimic the opposite sex, etc