Political Discussions for "Adults" - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge > Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-13-2019, 10:51 AM   #3081 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls View Post
Show me the stats with a breakdown of which gender each victim was. It would be a lot more useful.
In terms of identity or sex? It seems obvious to me that the kind of person who would commit a hate crime towards a trans person would hold the same kind of contempt for a non-binary, genderqueer, non-conforming, biogender, etc.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 10:59 AM   #3082 (permalink)
Fck Ths Thngs
 
DwnWthVwls's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,261
Default

Well i said gender so gender? Sex isnt gender get with the times.
__________________
I don't got a god complex, you got a simple god...

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I'd vote for Trump
DwnWthVwls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:01 AM   #3083 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls View Post
Well i said gender so gender? Sex isnt gender get with the times.
In that case,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
it seems obvious to me that the kind of person who would commit a hate crime towards a trans person would hold the same kind of contempt for people who are non-binary, genderqueer, non-conforming, biogender, etc.
so I think it's pretty rational to say that non-binary people are marginalized.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:07 AM   #3084 (permalink)
Fck Ths Thngs
 
DwnWthVwls's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,261
Default

Seeming obvious to you isnt good enough considering the huge differences between the genders. Id be willing to bet a majority of those cases fall in line with the more traditional mtf/ftm “trapped in the wrong body” people than any one of the 7 billion nonbinary types.
__________________
I don't got a god complex, you got a simple god...

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I'd vote for Trump
DwnWthVwls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:10 AM   #3085 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

You don't have to agree with how they identify to recognize that they're marginalized.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:15 AM   #3086 (permalink)
Fck Ths Thngs
 
DwnWthVwls's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,261
Default

Im still trying to figure out how you marginalize a group of unique individuals pinpointed somewhere on the gender spectrum and how their treatment is different from anyone else who falls outside societal norms and gets bullied, assaulted, and harassed.
__________________
I don't got a god complex, you got a simple god...

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I'd vote for Trump
DwnWthVwls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:17 AM   #3087 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

By bullying, assaulting, or harassing them for falling outside of societal norms.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:24 AM   #3088 (permalink)
Fck Ths Thngs
 
DwnWthVwls's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,261
Default

Cool now how many people who fit that criteria for reasons other than gender also suffer the same consequences, mr statman?
__________________
I don't got a god complex, you got a simple god...

Quote:
Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I'd vote for Trump
DwnWthVwls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:26 AM   #3089 (permalink)
jwb
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,403
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by grindy View Post
It's kind of understandable and forgivable for marginalized people to want to cling to some kind of identity-building trait or concept. Which is the reason why gay pride or black pride are much, much less retarded than white or straight pride. Would of course still be great if at some point humanity would be able to leave identities or at least such silly concepts of identity behind altogether.
A gay friend of mine once berated me for "not embracing gay culture" cause I'm bi but I don't watch queer as folk and act like a sissy. I told him go **** yourself with your gay culture and your rainbow flag and your leather bound parades. I never signed up for that to be my image or identity and frankly it doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.
jwb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2019, 11:26 AM   #3090 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls View Post
Cool now how many people who fit that criteria for reasons other than gender also suffer the same consequences, mr statman?
Bunches. If weirdos were a quantifiable, self identified group, then they would be marginalized too. You're saying that this is supposed to discount the marginalization of non-binary people?
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.