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Old 08-09-2019, 07:09 PM   #2951 (permalink)
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how much of what you know about postmodernism (in politics) is from reading these guys and how much is it just listening to their critics?
When I was in college everyone called I & I a postmodernist. It was mostly about cereal box design.

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Old 08-09-2019, 07:11 PM   #2952 (permalink)
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:31 PM   #2953 (permalink)
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I don't think so

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Old 08-09-2019, 07:34 PM   #2954 (permalink)
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so you basically disagree with the Crux of their argument
To say that post-modernism is saying that there is no truth is just saying that post-modernism is nihilism. I think the point of post-modernism is that it acknowledges nihilism, a viewpoint that divorces itself from human viewpoints totally, but actively dives into human viewpoints to examine them from a human perspective, just in a way that isn't traditional.
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Nihilism doesn't call objective reality into question, only existential meaning

Again, I'm not pulling this out if my ass. Chomsky and many other critics raise the same point, and basic neutral overviews of the philosophy say something similar. At this point I'd think the onus is on you guys to cite something backing up your pov
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Nihilism by definition would deny reality since muffukkin the Matrix means that there is no objective reality beyond maybe natural laws like gravity and the conservation of mass and energy.

Not that I'm acknowledging your point as having anything to do with what I said cause it didn't but maybe it had something to do with what something someone else said.
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yeah I just wouldn't agree with this assessment

who is this guy anyway?

https://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/who-am-i.htm

think I'll read his half page thoughts on Adam & Eve next
I thought the link was sarcastic.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:58 PM   #2958 (permalink)
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I should ****ing hope it was.
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Nihilism by definition would deny reality since muffukkin the Matrix means that there is no objective reality beyond maybe natural laws like gravity and the conservation of mass and energy.

Not that I'm acknowledging your point as having anything to do with what I said cause it didn't but maybe it had something to do with what something someone else said.
You seem to be confusing Nihilism for phenomenology.
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You seem to be confusing Nihilism for phenomenology.
I mean nihilism denies anything that isn't provable. True nihilism would deny any scientific statement that wasn't axiomatic.
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