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~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 04:48 PM

The tone is perfectly reasonable. It's that he had right wing stars like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, etc.

People who, 10-20 years ago, the left would've approached with civility rather than smearing them as Nazis.

OccultHawk · 08-08-2019, 04:50 PM

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**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 04:50 PM

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More deflecting.

I didn't say the right doesn't react to ideas they they don't like. But the statement I made about checking allies for ideological purity based on who they talk to is something I'm seeing specifically on the left and specifically related to the Rogan topic. So I don't need to go look for a right wing equivalent when calling that out. Either you can defend it or you can't. So far you're just deflecting.

Sounds like you don't want a right wing equivalent. What's the benefit of pinning what is clearly a larger issue of cultural divide driven by hyperpartisanship on one side over the other? Doesn't that just give the issue wheels?

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 04:53 PM

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Sounds like you don't want a right wing equivalent. What's the benefit of pinning what is clearly a larger issue of cultural divide driven by hyperpartisanship on one side over the other? Doesn't that just give the issue wheels?

In this case it was the left who were doing it.

What's the point in constantly resorting to whataboutism every time someone calls out specific behavior coming from your side

The Batlord · 08-08-2019, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

In this case it was the left who were doing it.

What's the point in constantly resorting to whataboutism every time someone calls out specific behavior coming from your side

I guess if you make the first partisan accusation then you don't have to resort to a whataboutism later.

**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 04:56 PM

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In this case it was the left who were doing it.

What's the point in constantly resorting to whataboutism every time someone calls out specific behavior coming from your side

To show that it's a deeper rooted issue than the political ideology that the partisan is attempting to pin the blame on.

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 04:59 PM

It's a simple cop out which is why I'm not entertaining it. In this case I get the same lame tactic used by left wingers and right wingers alike, anytime I criticize either side. It's one infuriating trait they do share.

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 05:00 PM

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It's not that he's floated 9/11 conspiracy and not pushed back on "racism realism" type talk?

He's long since denounced the conspiracy ****... Not familiar with what you mean by the race ****

OccultHawk · 08-08-2019, 05:04 PM

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It's a simple cop out which is why I'm not entertaining it. In this case I get the same lame tactic used by left wingers and right wingers alike, anytime I criticize either side. It's one infuriating trait they do share.

Tbf centrists do it too. They might be the worst because they do it to both sides.

That’s why we need to silence the centrists. Very dangerous people.

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 05:06 PM

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To show that it's a deeper rooted issue than the political ideology that the partisan is attempting to pin the blame on.

Nah, it seems like a cop out to me.

Let's be clear.... It's a pattern I've specifically noted in the left. I haven't seen the same exact pattern on the right. Maybe it's out there, maybe it's not, I'm not going to go looking for an equivalent everytime I voice a criticism just to seem "fair." And you've yet to provide a real counter example. So I can't help but think..... You're just deflecting to turn the conversation away from criticism of the side you support.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	The tone is perfectly reasonable. It's that he had right wing stars like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, etc. People who, 10-20 years ago, the left would've approached with civility rather than smearing them as Nazis.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	It's a simple cop out which is why I'm not entertaining it. In this case I get the same lame tactic used by left wingers and right wingers alike, anytime I criticize either side. It's one infuriating trait they do share.