Political Discussions for "Adults"

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 07:11 AM

I agree but were, in part, talking white men and women that are maybe a little different from the american standard claiming some gender like theyre so different they need a special title. They arent actually marginalized its practically munchausens on the extreme end. And yes **** tribalism and our inability to use reason to look past it.

OccultHawk · 08-13-2019, 07:22 AM

Does silence still equal death?

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 07:24 AM

Are mimes dead?

**Frownland** · 08-13-2019, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

They arent actually marginalized

Big lol at this one

OccultHawk · 08-13-2019, 07:36 AM

I mean the old gay rights expression

I get your joke but I mean it seems like every tribe or identity wants to shut out all the others and it’s hard to communicate. Or maybe that’s just what they keep saying on the news. I feel like whites have the biggest platform but it’s still not a suitable place for me to broadcast whatever it is I want to be heard. It might not even be a tribal issue. Maybe it’s just a me thing.

White people as a whole have been behaving badly for a long time but where does that leave me as an individual?

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 07:37 AM

If theyre marginalized then so am i because i dont fit in with society based on all the things elph included in his desceiption of what gender is. Thanks Frown, ive always wanted special treatment.

**Frownland** · 08-13-2019, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

If theyre marginalized then so am i because i dont fit in with society based on all the things elph included in his desceiption of what gender is. Thanks Frown, ive always wanted special treatment.

What special treatment are they asking for apart from "let us be ourselves"?

What about yourself is it that has a history of hate crimes targeting people with that trait?

**Marie Monday** · 08-13-2019, 07:47 AM

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Would of course still be great if at some point humanity would be able to leave identities or at least such silly concepts of identity behind altogether.

I agree.
The whole gender matter depends on how you define gender. I think that in an ideal world gender would be equal to sex and there would no other parts of your identity be attached to it. Then there would be two genders (plus hermaphrodites). However, it's sensible to adapt to the fact that gender means more right now, in which case it becomes a more complicated concept with more variations. Still, I think we should keep the ideal in mind where your sex is no part of your identity whatsoever.
A lot of that reasoning is based on my personal experience though. I pretty much identified as a boy as a kid (at least I wanted to) until I realized that I could have my identity in a girl's body if I chose not to conform to gender norms. Puberty might also have played a part, in any case, my attitude towards my own gender shifted at some point.

**Marie Monday** · 08-13-2019, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I agree but were, in part, talking white men and women that are maybe a little different from the american standard claiming some gender like theyre so different they need a special title. They arent actually marginalized its practically munchausens on the extreme end. And yes **** tribalism and our inability to use reason to look past it.

It really goed a lot further than that in terms of being different and marginalisation. Really. And of course, **** tribalism, but it is a matter of asking for understanding and acceptance. When things get intolerant, for instance with people being ostracised for using the wrong pronoun accidentally, that's something different. I think we can all agree that that's not a good thing, that's not what this is about.

DwnWthVwls · 08-13-2019, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What special treatment are they asking for apart from "let us be ourselves"?

What about yourself is it that has a history of hate crimes targeting people with that trait?

Its almost like you read nothing and decided to comment. Hmm.

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08-13-2019, 07:36 AM	#2755 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I mean the old gay rights expression I get your joke but I mean it seems like every tribe or identity wants to shut out all the others and it’s hard to communicate. Or maybe that’s just what they keep saying on the news. I feel like whites have the biggest platform but it’s still not a suitable place for me to broadcast whatever it is I want to be heard. It might not even be a tribal issue. Maybe it’s just a me thing. White people as a whole have been behaving badly for a long time but where does that leave me as an individual? __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html