Political Discussions for "Adults"

debaserr · 08-06-2019, 04:37 PM

Hopefully they would have introductory training.

OccultHawk · 08-06-2019, 04:45 PM

Bringing up logical fallacies should be a logical fallacy.

Appeal to authority, maybe

debaserr · 08-06-2019, 04:51 PM

burh

The Batlord · 08-06-2019, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Bringing up logical fallacies should be a logical fallacy.

Appeal to authority, maybe

You just say that cause everything you say is ten kinds of logical fallacy and you know it.

OccultHawk · 08-06-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

You just say that cause everything you say is ten kinds of logical fallacy and you know it.

That’s a logical fallacy fallacy.

~~jwb~~ · 08-06-2019, 06:48 PM

@ debaser your article mostly talks about how people have feared technology taking their jobs in the past, where as the overall number of jobs has grown.

This is true but also misleading. As the manufacturing sector has been decimated in the United States, it has mostly been replaced by service and/or retail jobs that pay a fair amount less. The middle class is shrinking cause decent, blue collar jobs that earn a decent living are disappearing.

On top of this, automation is starting to branch out into virtually every sector of low skilled work. Even retail and service jobs are going to start to take a hit. Also truck driving jobs, one of the last decent blue collar jobs, is slated to be automated in the coming decades.

The Batlord · 08-06-2019, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb

@ debaser your article mostly talks about how people have feared technology taking their jobs in the past, where as the overall number of jobs has grown.

This is true but also misleading. As the manufacturing sector has been decimated in the United States, it has mostly been replaced by service and/or retail jobs that pay a fair amount less. The middle class is shrinking cause decent, blue collar jobs that earn a decent living are disappearing.

On top of this, automation is starting to branch out into virtually every sector of low skilled work. Even retail and service jobs are going to start to take a hit. Also truck driving jobs, one of the last decent blue collar jobs, is slated to be automated in the coming decades.

**Frownland** · 08-06-2019, 08:25 PM

We need to invent the time machine so that we can just skip forward to when we're at WALL-E status.

debaserr · 08-06-2019, 11:02 PM

Not looking good for that. More likely to flame out and go the way of Venus.

~~jwb~~ · 08-07-2019, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

there's almost no reason why my job and my cashier's jobs shouldn't already be automated

It takes an initial investment, but eventually they will be.

I mean you will still need some cashiers etc. Even self check out requires a cashier. But one cashier can handle like 10 self check out registers. So you would need fewer of them. Not to mention that online shopping is also putting an increasingly sizable dent in the retail market.

I've worked a lot of manufacturing and wharehouse jobs and have seen it first hand. The various stages of automation. Some places are behind others in terms of their automation, just based on how old their equipment is.

One boss even told me straight up, when being asked about why they don't replace the equipment on the line which was frequently malfunctioning, that when ever they did get around to updating it, half the people working there would be rendered redundant.

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08-06-2019, 06:48 PM	#2746 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	@ debaser your article mostly talks about how people have feared technology taking their jobs in the past, where as the overall number of jobs has grown. This is true but also misleading. As the manufacturing sector has been decimated in the United States, it has mostly been replaced by service and/or retail jobs that pay a fair amount less. The middle class is shrinking cause decent, blue collar jobs that earn a decent living are disappearing. On top of this, automation is starting to branch out into virtually every sector of low skilled work. Even retail and service jobs are going to start to take a hit. Also truck driving jobs, one of the last decent blue collar jobs, is slated to be automated in the coming decades.