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Old 08-09-2019, 08:06 PM   #2661 (permalink)
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Nihilism by definition would deny reality since muffukkin the Matrix means that there is no objective reality beyond maybe natural laws like gravity and the conservation of mass and energy.

Not that I'm acknowledging your point as having anything to do with what I said cause it didn't but maybe it had something to do with what something someone else said.
You seem to be confusing Nihilism for phenomenology.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:10 PM   #2662 (permalink)
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You seem to be confusing Nihilism for phenomenology.
I mean nihilism denies anything that isn't provable. True nihilism would deny any scientific statement that wasn't axiomatic.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:54 PM   #2663 (permalink)
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Shrug. My understanding of nihilism was that statements about morality, meaning, and science were all dependent on the skepticisim that was nihilism, which was a blackhole that only acknowledged that which could be proven. I stand to be corrected.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:11 PM   #2664 (permalink)
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Nihilism is skepticism rehashed.

The Greeks had already thought all that **** out.
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I mean the basic point of post-modernism is that it's trying to describe human nature and existence that is or has been previously indescribable by words due to how ****ing abstract it is, so if it sounds like nonsense then maybe it's because of how poorly words describe abstract ideas in the first place. Or am I off base?
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You seem to be confusing Nihilism for phenomenology.
He's confusing it with radical constructivism.
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postmodernism isn't an argument or a central tenant anymore than Modernism or Romanticism or whatever

it's more akin to a grouping together of a perspective and a variety of artists, writers, architects philosophers etc.

in the case of Foucault, he does not question the existence of an objective reality

what he questions in his writings is the narrative form of evaluating history from which we derive what we often think to be objective truth
Maybe I was wrong about it then. I thought it went beyond history and applied to science as well.
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it's critical of scientific institutions
can you give an example?
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Only kind of related but who’s read Borges?
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