Political Discussions for "Adults"

mr dave · 07-31-2019, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I think if it were somehow possible for the painter to determine that his painting made the home owner 13k more than he got compensated he'd be a bit miffed

Only if it's their very first foray into the working world. And ultimately the issue is on them for undervaluing their work.

Flip it around. If the house sells prior to a paint job. Do you really think the painter can charge $15k to add a fresh coat to the walls? The potential value of the house increases by the same amount but it's no longer going to be sold.

So do they price themselves out of work out of some misguided sense of entitlement to $15k? Or do they take the $2000?

**Frownland** · 07-31-2019, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

even if there are other people willing to do the paint job for you 3k, they should split it just to be nice? What world do you live in lol

It'd be reasonable.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

you just asked me what he should do

thanks

which you never effectively answered cause you lack confidence

What is the alternative system by which you think people would be paid what they are owed?

**Frownland** · 07-31-2019, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

What is the alternative system by which you think people would be paid what they are owed?

An agreed upon price for the services rendered at first, then once expenses are cleared (including costs for future planning and such depending on the business model), distribute the profits as a bonus.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 07:21 PM

So capitalism but with kindness

I'll hold my breath

**Frownland** · 07-31-2019, 07:22 PM

I never said it was pragmatic or adoptable in our current system.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 07:23 PM

@ elph
Such as.....

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 07:37 PM

You assume the same system of trade would persist even if you yank the profit motive out from under it?

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 07:48 PM

So basically communism?

I'm not trying to be a dick just trying to understand what you mean

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 07:58 PM

Yeh you sorta lose me with the anarchy part

What happens when a an armed organized group decides to invade?

07-31-2019, 07:22 PM	#2526 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I never said it was pragmatic or adoptable in our current system. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-31-2019, 07:21 PM	#2525 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	So capitalism but with kindness I'll hold my breath

07-31-2019, 07:23 PM	#2527 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	@ elph Such as.....

07-31-2019, 07:37 PM	#2528 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	You assume the same system of trade would persist even if you yank the profit motive out from under it?

07-31-2019, 07:48 PM	#2529 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	So basically communism? I'm not trying to be a dick just trying to understand what you mean

07-31-2019, 07:58 PM	#2530 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yeh you sorta lose me with the anarchy part What happens when a an armed organized group decides to invade?