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07-31-2019, 03:46 PM | #2491 (permalink) | ||
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Minimum wage doesn't make cheap labor harder to get. Under a certain level it eliminates it. You're also ignoring the point. Unions through threat of strikes, or even violence, and companies through lobbying alter value based on non-market factors via power. If a corporation is increasing the value of whatever they're selling by having laws enacted or struck down that artificially inflate value then value is meaningless. All you're talking about is power. And power is not actually a synonym for money.
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07-31-2019, 03:51 PM | #2492 (permalink) |
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But he doesn’t get it so that can’t be true derp derp
Because the way it is is the only way it can be
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07-31-2019, 03:56 PM | #2493 (permalink) | |
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Unions and minimum wage affect wages by calling y it harder or impossible to find cheaper labor That's perfectly in line with what I'm saying. You are worth whatever the labor pool you are competing with is willing to work for. How essential the labor you provide is means less than how hard it is to find someone to do the same job. |
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07-31-2019, 03:57 PM | #2494 (permalink) | |
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You get what you are worth paying for by an employer Which is based on what your competition will work for |
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07-31-2019, 04:00 PM | #2495 (permalink) | |
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But you guys are using the system we have to derive your labor theory of value The problem is you aren't properly considering the value of the business. Which is worth a hell of a lot more than the simple overhead. |
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07-31-2019, 04:02 PM | #2496 (permalink) | |
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I'm not convinced by just saying you're entitled to it even when businesses don't need you if they are forced to pay more Just sounds like baseless wishful thinking. Once again, you're entitled to nothing. |
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07-31-2019, 04:23 PM | #2499 (permalink) |
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You're entitled to what you agree to work for. Unionizing might help that rate. I've yet to say anything against unions.
The business owner only has domain cause they are the ones putting up all the capital, taking all the risk, etc. They're entitled to what the business makes minus overhead the same way they're responsible for any losses or debts they accrue. |
07-31-2019, 04:29 PM | #2500 (permalink) | |
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Why? Why should I be entitled to get anything for any reason? Why aren't the capitalists entitled to enslave us? Why am I not entitled to more than what I'm getting now?
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