Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 07-15-2017, 03:54 PM

Why don't you post a Hitler meme and we'll call it a draw? Let's be adults about it!

The Batlord · 07-15-2017, 04:09 PM

~~patrice oneal~~ · 07-15-2017, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'd sooner go to prison, than go to war on behalf of this country, unless I felt the war was justified. Why people would rather go risk their lives in a war they do not support than go to prison is baffling to me.

yet it's a good thing they do, because without our military empire this country wouldn't be nearly as prosperous or successful as we are.

~~patrice oneal~~ · 07-15-2017, 07:46 PM

btw

out of the the 3, ant seems like he doesnt belong on the list. he basically gets **** for being the only person defending trump in a thread that is otherwise just a liberal anti-trump circle jerk. does he go tit for tat with his opponents when they get childish? sure, he's only human. but ffs do you really just want an echo chamber where NOBODY questions the prevailing pov?

chula- old, stubborn, stuck in his ways. i give him a sort of a pass for being old and that's just how the elderly are, they don't want to be preached to they just want to be listened to. we'll all probably end up there, someday.

elf - you have potential my friend as you are clearly well versed in what positions you take on any given issue. but as others have indicated, just stating your position again and again is an empty gesture. you say that debating the untouchables only elevates their position... you are too concerned with the war of ideas and not concerned enough with the ideas themselves. i spent a long time online debating creationists when i was younger. you know what happened as a result? did i ever convert a single creationist? no. but i gained a much more thorough understanding of evolution, religion, etc. it was only by taking them serious, checking their claims, and critically analyzing my own position that i ever made any intellectual progress. so if you take the lazy way out and say "nah not worth addressing" and just keep reiterating your position, you will only limit yourself and basically become the archetype of what is known as a "coffee shop intellectual."

OccultHawk · 07-15-2017, 07:55 PM

ban 'em!!!

DwnWthVwls · 07-15-2017, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrice oneal

yet it's a good thing they do, because without our military empire this country wouldn't be nearly as prosperous or successful as we are.

See Japan.

~~patrice oneal~~ · 07-15-2017, 07:59 PM

three exclamation points. don't i feel special.

~~patrice oneal~~ · 07-15-2017, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

See Japan.

i see japan, vwls. what's your point?

ps do you not see the irony responding to me in this way when you're the one who started a thread about lets have a real conversation you isisbeard wearing new jersey dwelling freak?

~~patrice oneal~~ · 07-15-2017, 08:05 PM

oh, i think i got it. you picked a country that is prosperous with no military.

the context in which they are prosperous is as an ally of the united states during our imperial reign.

and the really funny part is that japan relies heavily on the united states for military protection for this reason because of the bizarre set of circumstances which lead to the policy where they have no military. there is a growing movement in japan to bring the military back precisely because having their own military is always going to be a better and more reliable strategy than relying on an ally. try again?

OccultHawk · 07-15-2017, 08:08 PM

Japan has a big military.

07-15-2017, 03:54 PM	#201 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Why don't you post a Hitler meme and we'll call it a draw? Let's be adults about it! __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

07-15-2017, 07:55 PM	#205 (permalink)
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07-15-2017, 08:08 PM	#210 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Japan has a big military. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

07-15-2017, 07:46 PM	#204 (permalink)
~~patrice oneal~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 18	btw out of the the 3, ant seems like he doesnt belong on the list. he basically gets **** for being the only person defending trump in a thread that is otherwise just a liberal anti-trump circle jerk. does he go tit for tat with his opponents when they get childish? sure, he's only human. but ffs do you really just want an echo chamber where NOBODY questions the prevailing pov? chula- old, stubborn, stuck in his ways. i give him a sort of a pass for being old and that's just how the elderly are, they don't want to be preached to they just want to be listened to. we'll all probably end up there, someday. elf - you have potential my friend as you are clearly well versed in what positions you take on any given issue. but as others have indicated, just stating your position again and again is an empty gesture. you say that debating the untouchables only elevates their position... you are too concerned with the war of ideas and not concerned enough with the ideas themselves. i spent a long time online debating creationists when i was younger. you know what happened as a result? did i ever convert a single creationist? no. but i gained a much more thorough understanding of evolution, religion, etc. it was only by taking them serious, checking their claims, and critically analyzing my own position that i ever made any intellectual progress. so if you take the lazy way out and say "nah not worth addressing" and just keep reiterating your position, you will only limit yourself and basically become the archetype of what is known as a "coffee shop intellectual."

07-15-2017, 07:59 PM	#207 (permalink)
~~patrice oneal~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 18	three exclamation points. don't i feel special.

07-15-2017, 08:05 PM	#209 (permalink)
~~patrice oneal~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 18	oh, i think i got it. you picked a country that is prosperous with no military. the context in which they are prosperous is as an ally of the united states during our imperial reign. and the really funny part is that japan relies heavily on the united states for military protection for this reason because of the bizarre set of circumstances which lead to the policy where they have no military. there is a growing movement in japan to bring the military back precisely because having their own military is always going to be a better and more reliable strategy than relying on an ally. try again?