I probably follow politics more than anyone else on this board. I'm just older and more set in my ways (less fluid) than a lot of you. DWV, name the presidents who have held office during your lifetime.

Here's my list. Been following this stuff for a long, long time.

Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush Sr.
Clinton
Bush Jr.
Obama
Bozo

Cause as we all know, the elderly have the nation's best interests at heart.

I'm an old ****, too. That don't mean you know nothing.

Exactlly.

And Bat, considering that up until the **** hit the fan Linda and I were pretty damn affluent, yet remained liberal the whole time, says a lot. It'd be in our best financial interests to vote conservative. But it's not all about us.

Reagan
Bush Sr. (not that I remember this guy or Reagan)
Clinton
Bush Jr.
Obama
Trump

Yeah, and that's why it's near impossible to have any conversation with you when you disagree with the narrative. Not only do you disagree, but you make 0 effort to understand alternative perspectives, logic, or reasoning. It is possible to disagree while still appreciating the substance behind an argument, but you'd rather bury your head in the sand and get offended.. Elph does the same non-sense which is why he was included. Neither of you like having discussions, you like telling people what you think.

Oh thank you great contributor!

^You can go on the list too. :D

You are not like Ant and Chula in the sense that you're a mainstream party hack. You are like them in the sense that you're mindlessly beholden to a political ideology that you have chosen. You are however likely beholden to your ideology probably because you're young and dumb and like to think you're a revolutionary of some sort or other. And you suck at debate.

What does that have to do with you using age to discredit others?

He'll be mowing the lawn, voting republican and swimming in his neighbor's pool in 10 years.

I love it when you go hard on the paint...