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Old 07-15-2017, 11:26 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Wheres the fireman discount? Wheres the living below the poverty line discount?
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:27 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Wheres the fireman discount? Wheres the living below the poverty line discount?
I could see firemen being able to milk out some discounts, a lot of places give them to the police.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:27 AM   #133 (permalink)
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I always thought that the whole perteckin our freedom stuff was a bunch of propaganda that hasnt been applicable for over 75 years. There hasn't been a real existential threat to our freedom in a long time (despite what those who profit off of fear mongering might tell you).

Plenty of people contribute to society in infinitely more positive ways than the military. Teachers, farmers, and weed dealers should get that discount alongside the military.
For all that people talk about teachers being paid more, I don't think the socially conservative wing of the country honestly gives a **** about actually paying for raises for people who teach science that contradicts their backwards ignorance.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:29 AM   #134 (permalink)
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I think the funniest thing about this thread is that no adults have posted in this thread yet.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:30 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:33 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:33 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:49 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Really DWV, that was nowhere near a real insult. It was said in jest and you know it. I guess it is okay to take things for granted when you feel like certain events hasnt directly affected your life.

That is the main reason they should get special treatment. Also most vets don't even get special treatment, they barely get by when they return home for wars and end up getting hated and mis treated by people with your mentality. Talk to all the Vietnam vets that came home and ended up homeless with hippies spitting on them just because they don't agree with the war that they were hauled off to.
Just to clarify, your position is: I feel differently about certain societal norms, therefore I take the events which helped mold those norms for granted? Have you ever considered that I don't take them for granted and just came to a different conclusion about what the appropriate response should be?

What is my mentality exactly? I'd never mistreat them, but my reason for doing so is not because they are vets. I wouldn't mistreat them because they are human beings. I wouldn't be a dick to Hitler either. I don't believe in treating people poorly. Those that I don't like I won't go out of my way to help or interact with, but I'd never treat anyone differently from the expectations I hold myself accountable to when interacting with society. (That's a lie actually, sometimes I'm a dick online when playing video games, but it's mostly caused by people playing team games and then refusing to work cooperatively or intentionally throwing games in competitive modes/piss poor selfish attitudes. I do try to keep myself calm and collected, but sometimes I just hate people on the internet.)
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For all that people talk about teachers being paid more, I don't think the socially conservative wing of the country honestly gives a **** about actually paying for raises for people who teach science that contradicts their backwards ignorance.
Teaching grades 1-3 demands real skill. Grades 4-10 is just glorified baby sitting that doesn't demand much of a skill set. It's mostly just a willingness to accept abuse. 11-12 grade only takes real skill if you're teaching AP classes. Now that discussion has replaced the genuine lecture model the only real teachers in college teach hard sciences. Lit, history, psychology, business, political science- it's all garbage at this point. Those professors are frauds.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:04 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Teaching grades 1-3 demands real skill. Grades 4-10 is just glorified baby sitting that doesn't demand much of a skill set. It's mostly just a willingness to accept abuse. 11-12 grade only takes real skill if you're teaching AP classes. Now that discussion has replaced the genuine lecture model the only real teachers in college teach hard sciences. Lit, history, psychology, business, political science- it's all garbage at this point. Those professors are frauds.
Lectures are pretty archaic and ineffective though. Discussion and collaborative efforts actually helps people learn.
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