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07-14-2017, 09:16 PM | #121 (permalink) | |||
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Also screw you. We deserve discounts and its not lile there are even a lot of places that even offer. Unless you are in a city with a military base like Frown mentioned. Of course they should get discounts for all the business they get from the military in that area. Quote:
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07-14-2017, 11:32 PM | #122 (permalink) | |
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Military vets get treated like absolute **** by our current economic system once they retire from the service of "WORKING TO PROTECT YOUR ASS" based on the orders they receive. Mostly young, and naive kids who have nowhere else to turn and then get completely used and manipulated by our government and then get thrown to the curb when they get home. Do you know what percentage of homeless people are folks who once stood on battle lines trying to protect your countries' interests based on what they were instructed by the goverment, while you were sitting home sucking your thumb? My 86 year old dad is elderly. He busted his ass working for over 50 years. He served during the Korean War in the Air Force and almost didn't make it home from one flight. He and the crew had to jettison every piece of gear and equipment to reduce the weight of the plane to maximize the fuel so they could get back to the base. He's currently in a nursing home and I've been unable to have a coherent conversaton with him over the phone (we're 3,000 miles apart), because of his dementia, in about 3 years. The dude contributed into the system for decades. He paid his taxes. He did his part to make the system work without bitching. Maybe re-think your attitude about how this stuff works. Totally let down by you DMV. I held you in higher regard until that post.
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07-14-2017, 11:44 PM | #123 (permalink) |
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Considering I don't support most of our wars, and don't see how most of them were fought to PROTECT us, I can't really appreciate where you are coming from. And as previously mentioned, I don't care what you think of me this thread is about discussing topics not personalities or how we view one another. If you don't agree with my opinion than feel free to explain why, not attack my character.. It's big boy time, and that goes for DJ too with the "Screw you" comment. If you can't discuss the topics without making it personal than see your way out, as I've already stated. I don't need your validation or even want it, it serves no purpose in my attempts to remain objective about topics.
Now on topic, the same system that fails them fails 1000s of other people, I don't see why they deserve special treatment over all the others suffering under a poor system just because our ****ty government forced them into wars. FYI, my grandfather was captured in Japan during WWII (and lived to tell the story), and my other grandfather was a Marine. I also have other military vets in my family.. Not that it matters in the slightest, but since you like to use these kinds of things as justification I figured I'd put it out there..
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07-15-2017, 12:06 AM | #125 (permalink) |
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Insults won't be tolerated here.
They'll be deleted. Repeat offenders will be banned. There can and will be uncomfortable opinions stated in this thread. If someone can't deal with such opinions in a calm and adult manner, kindly stay out of here.
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07-15-2017, 12:06 AM | #126 (permalink) | ||
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Edit: Maybe they don't get it the worst, especially when considering the native Americans.
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07-15-2017, 06:23 AM | #127 (permalink) |
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Yeah, I don't get this really. Most (all?) military personnel volunteer to serve. They do put their lives on the line - whether you agree with the policy under which they go to war or not is kind of irrelevant - and whether you like it or not, they protect your freedom. I think the least they should expect is a little bit of payback from the system they fought to defend. As for older people? Well, most of them may not have the kind of money you did/do/will, and will find it hard to get by, so I see no problem in their being helped out by a society which has, by this point, pretty much passed them by and discarded them.
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07-15-2017, 07:01 AM | #128 (permalink) | ||
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That is the main reason they should get special treatment. Also most vets don't even get special treatment, they barely get by when they return home for wars and end up getting hated and mis treated by people with your mentality. Talk to all the Vietnam vets that came home and ended up homeless with hippies spitting on them just because they don't agree with the war that they were hauled off to.
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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes. Quote:
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07-15-2017, 08:36 AM | #129 (permalink) | |
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Except that myth about mostly poor people joining the military isn't true.
Also most of the bloated military budget doesn't even go towards where it should. Buying decent equipment for those in those government jobs. Most of that money gets used on hiring private contractors.
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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes. Quote:
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07-15-2017, 11:20 AM | #130 (permalink) | |
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Plenty of people contribute to society in infinitely more positive ways than the military. Teachers, farmers, and weed dealers should get that discount alongside the military.
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