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Old 02-07-2019, 03:19 PM   #1211 (permalink)
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Why anyone cares what anyone else cared about at some point back in time is the real pressing question.

Just take the music as it is on its own merits.

But that's just me. Whenever people start arguing about these things, my eyes glaze over.
Glaze deez nuts it’s a music forum
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Old 02-07-2019, 03:21 PM   #1212 (permalink)
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Nobody cared about Charles Ives in 1950, why even bother listening to him now?
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Old 02-07-2019, 03:25 PM   #1213 (permalink)
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People cared about Ives in the 50’s
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Old 02-07-2019, 03:25 PM   #1214 (permalink)
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But not in '50. Don't pluralize me.
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And I like talking about music. I just don't get why people care about what is or was popular. But it's fine. Just not really the approach I have when thinking about music.

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Kinda partially my point that that would be stupid logic. Or more like a natural side effect of my view on music that charles Ives' relevance is all about the quality of his music and not about any current or past critical notoriety (or otherwise) or popularity.
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But not in '50. Don't pluralize me.
He won the Pulitzer Prize for Music in the 40’s
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The composers that matter had Ives on the platter.
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Kinda partially my point that that would be stupid logic. Or more like a natural side effect of my view on music that charles Ives' relevance is all about the quality of his music and not about any current or past critical notoriety (or otherwise) or popularity.
I agree that popularity is a stupid factor to consider. Context, however, can be very meaningful, because innovation can speak to quality and presentism can make that difficult to discern.

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The Unanswered Question sat on the shelf for over 30 years before it was performed. Why bother?
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I agree that popularity is a stupid factor to consider. Context, however, can be very meaningful, because innovation can speak to quality and presentism can make that difficult to discern.
It's good to know the rough outline of how genres developed and branched out, but I admittedly spend very little time looking into historical context. Just enough to connect the dots into a larger, zoomed out map of musical styles.
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