Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 02-07-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Nobody cared about Charles Ives in 1950, why even bother listening to him now?

People cared about Ives in the 50’s

**Frownland** · 02-07-2019, 03:25 PM

But not in '50. Don't pluralize me.

~~MicShazam~~ · 02-07-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Glaze deez nuts it’s a music forum

And I like talking about music. I just don't get why people care about what is or was popular. But it's fine. Just not really the approach I have when thinking about music.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Nobody cared about Charles Ives in 1950, why even bother listening to him now?

Kinda partially my point that that would be stupid logic. Or more like a natural side effect of my view on music that charles Ives' relevance is all about the quality of his music and not about any current or past critical notoriety (or otherwise) or popularity.

OccultHawk · 02-07-2019, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

But not in '50. Don't pluralize me.

He won the Pulitzer Prize for Music in the 40’s

OccultHawk · 02-07-2019, 03:30 PM

The composers that matter had Ives on the platter.

Anteater · 02-07-2019, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Ant

You have great taste but come on man

You can’t trump tweet out of this.

White Light/White Heat was the first post-punk album. Fight meayyyyy.

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

*urge to pee in Anteater's mother's mouth... rising*

*something something weird flex*

**Frownland** · 02-07-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Kinda partially my point that that would be stupid logic. Or more like a natural side effect of my view on music that charles Ives' relevance is all about the quality of his music and not about any current or past critical notoriety (or otherwise) or popularity.

I agree that popularity is a stupid factor to consider. Context, however, can be very meaningful, because innovation can speak to quality and presentism can make that difficult to discern.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

He won the Pulitzer Prize for Music in the 40’s

The Unanswered Question sat on the shelf for over 30 years before it was performed. Why bother?

~~MicShazam~~ · 02-07-2019, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I agree that popularity is a stupid factor to consider. Context, however, can be very meaningful, because innovation can speak to quality and presentism can make that difficult to discern.

It's good to know the rough outline of how genres developed and branched out, but I admittedly spend very little time looking into historical context. Just enough to connect the dots into a larger, zoomed out map of musical styles.

DMBFFF · 02-07-2019, 04:57 PM

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Is this GBOA music video racist?

from a thread of mine in another forum: Is this GBOA music video racist?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaye_Bykers_on_Acid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grebo_(music)

(source-of-sorts)
https://8ch.net/liberty/res/82329.html

I tend to like when they put horns into punk music, but still, the blackface and wigs.

somewhat off-topic:

same song, seriously funkified:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer

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He served from 1971 to 1981 as a Republican member of the Pennsylvania State Senate representing the state's 50th district.

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On January 22, 1987, Dwyer called a news conference in the Pennsylvania state capital of Harrisburg where he killed himself in front of the gathered reporters, by shooting himself in the mouth with a .357 Magnum revolver.

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Throughout Dwyer's trial and after his conviction, he maintained that he was not guilty of the charges levied against him, and that he had been framed.

Lucem Ferre · 02-07-2019, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

if it helps your ego you can just chalk it up to not knowing about boring white people music

guitars suck amiright

I think we were arguing the same point. I was just making an ass out of myself for not looking up what CBGB was before arguing. I know the hip hop side, not the punk side. But yeah, gothic post-punk is beckoning me.

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