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Old 02-07-2019, 01:40 PM   #1131 (permalink)
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:42 PM   #1132 (permalink)
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:45 PM   #1133 (permalink)
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:45 PM   #1134 (permalink)
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:49 PM   #1135 (permalink)
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A lot of people agree with me apparently and with good reason. Gravediggaz and Gangsta Nip are fun but don't justify the concept of horror-themed hip hop.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:49 PM   #1136 (permalink)
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Black metal, Tim Burton, etc.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:52 PM   #1137 (permalink)
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but ya just went and agreed with me

It was the post punk scene. I might be out of my depth but is Blondie not a part of the Post-Punk scene?

Edit: Excluding the part where Flash actually name dropped Joy Division as an artist who that crowd brought to his attention.
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Old 02-07-2019, 01:56 PM   #1138 (permalink)
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He wasn't playing those venues in 77.
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Old 02-07-2019, 02:13 PM   #1139 (permalink)
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It was the post punk scene. I might be out of my depth but is Blondie not a part of the Post-Punk scene?

Edit: Excluding the part where Flash actually name dropped Joy Division as an artist who that crowd brought to his attention.
Blondie were one of the first bands of the CBGB's New York punk scene, which was an odd space for punk. It was a bunch of bands not bothered with sounding anything alike so you ended up with bands playing around the same time who got grouped into proto-punk, punk, and post-punk. But Blondie were definitely... well who the **** cares cause ultimately they got called new wave. Even though they existed before new wave, but... who cares. "Heart of Glass" is most definitely not what anyone not trying to make a point would call punk or even post punk so as far as I'm concerned it's evidence of my point.
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Old 02-07-2019, 02:33 PM   #1140 (permalink)
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You're arguing points I never made. I didn't say being a black rapper makes you an owner, I'm talking about record labels. There are tons of black owned record labels that generate revenue.
Most of them likely on a shoe-string that likely owe money.

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Jay-Z is not just a rapper. He owns a very successful label. Kanye West, Drake, Tech N9ne, 50 Cent. Artists that own hip hop business.
The don't "own hip hop business": they own businesses in hip hop.

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I didn't say hip hop on it's own is going to save black people from disparity but it's one of the only industries that is seemingly owned by black people which is important.
Who owns Def Jam?

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No, I don't think a doctor has the same pull or sway or connections as Oprah ****ing Winfrey. Think about it, do you think Kim Kardashian could as easily build her business with out the connections her family had built? You think a doctor builds those same connections? **** out of here.
For every Oprah Winfrey there are perhaps 1000 black women who tried yet many of them likely don't have 1% of her fortune: such is the nature of the business, but if 1000 blacks try to be doctors using the same effort Oprah did with her career, a good proportion will succeed—possibly a majority—and they might collectively, when they get to be her age, have more money than she and the other 1000.

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None of this even addresses the question of whether or not horrorcore labels, which are white owned and white employed, are taking hip hop industry away from black people or are they so far removed from hip hop culture that it makes no impact. Obviously you have very very little knowledge of hip hop at all so the question isn't for you.
I've given my answer. They deal in music likely derivative of black music, but blacks don't suffer because of it—they might even be profiting a bit from it.

As for my ignorance, guilty as charged, but are you going to tell me that this ICP isn't derivative, because I think it is.
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