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Originally Posted by Goofle
(Post 1855528)
Would you agree that moral and ethical discussions should not be based on the system you happen to be born into? The fact that roads, schools and other services were provided by the tax dollars of those who came before me doesn't change the question of whether taxation is actually theft or not.
Had those people not been taxed, maybe we wouldn't have the same level of infrastructure. But what you could not say is that they were potentially stolen from.
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Perhaps I didn't hone in on the point of my argument well enough.
The idea of taxation as theft assumes harm is integral to the nature of "taxation", the compulsory secular 'tithe' of currency for common use. As others have stated, there are abuses in this system, which should be rooted out, but I fail to see how taxation is intrinsically harmful. Our system of government allows for us to select our representatives. If one's position is that all taxation should be voluntary, then they are free to elect representatives that agree with that position. But to characterize losing a political argument, i.e. is taxation theft, as having harm done to you is a rhetorical bridge too far.
Americans have repeatedly demonstrated a desire for some form of government. Its reach waxes and wains, but the core institutions (military, postal service, etc,) remain.
And another quick thought, currency is debt. More specifically, currency that is not tied to a finite resource (gold, silver, platinum, etc.) is debt. Following the logic of 'taxation as theft' if the currency you've earned for your labors is issued in dollars, and not in bullion, then you are relieving your employer of a form of debt and taking on "money" with a fluctuating value. Looked at another way, the more money you pay in tax, the more debt you're relieved of! (I realize it's mostly playing a game with numbers, but the internal logic is consistent and I'm using it to highlight what I see as an empty anti-tax argument).
Currency as debt
At the end of the day, I'm comfortable with roughly 20% of my income being deducted for various taxes and compulsory "savings" (e.g. social security). I view it as a 'society tax', and when compared to historical examples (and some currently lawless, tax-less societies) of low to functionally no tax areas, I think we're better off for it. Taxation helps maintain the social contract - it provides for common use utilities. We shouldn't understate how important free-use roads are. They are the figurative lifeblood of our economy. Can you imagine a patchwork of private, for-profit roadways? Free market capitalism is generally a wonderful thing, but the 'tragedy of the commons' is economic problem that Hayek and the rest of the invisible hand Austrians never adequately solved, in my humble opinion.