Bill O'Reilly fired !!!!!!!!!!!!

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-14-2017, 02:27 PM

so what youre really saying is that its only good news if it fits your narrative

The Identity Matrix · 05-14-2017, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

so what youre really saying is that its only good news if it fits your narrative

Yes, that is my whole point. You hit the nail right on the head there Qwert.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-14-2017, 02:29 PM

it was directed at chula my man

Chula Vista · 05-14-2017, 02:30 PM

I want to hear from people who have worked on both sides of the aisle. Who don't come across as blind shills. Who will call a spade a spade independant of party.

Lame retort Q.

The Identity Matrix · 05-14-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

it was directed at chula my man

Oh, my bad. I was the last to post and you didn't quote so I assumed.

I shouldn't assume....

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-14-2017, 02:34 PM

nah i was genuinely just saying that's what it sounds like to me. if somebody posted a HuffPost link you wouldnt bat an eye, but if it was Fox, you'd dismiss immediately. same probably goes for Ant but as an opposite. no big deal, but calling them shills just because they disagree with you is obv biased.

and nbd TIM, i would quote if i wasnt on mobile and trolling Chula.

Key · 05-14-2017, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

so what youre really saying is that its only good news if it fits your narrative

Well, to be fair, and while it's unfortunate, this is how most of the world works. Same goes with debating though. If it doesn't fit your narrative, of course you're going to push your point toward them. BUT, the main issue isn't what fits your narrative, it's finding what actually holds factual basis AND fits your narrative. Nothing wrong with using articles to prove your own point as long as it's accurate. Unfortunately most people at this forum don't know the single thing about using articles as factual evidence. Myself included.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-14-2017, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Well, to be fair, and while it's unfortunate, this is how most of the world works. Same goes with debating though. If it doesn't fit your narrative, of course you're going to push your point toward them. BUT, the main issue isn't what fits your narrative, it's finding what actually holds factual basis AND fits your narrative. Nothing wrong with using articles to prove your own point as long as it's accurate. Unfortunately most people at this forum don't know the single thing about using articles as factual evidence. Myself included.

agreed but if youre dismissing a source simply because of your own biases... well, obviously there's a bit of an issue. there needs to be some give and take with these kinds of things. an understanding that no person or company will ever be entirely accurate all the time and just because it alligns with what you think does not mean it is inherently more valid.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-14-2017, 02:39 PM

there's so many reasons why trump is a bad person and an even worse president, so why have things like "he's creepy around his daughter" become hot button responses for why he's unfit for his position.

doubt he's done anything near what ol bill clinton did in his hayday

Key · 05-14-2017, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Yeah but the events cited in that Huffpost did indeed occur Trump does say creepy af **** about his daughter

Whether it is true or not doesn't dismiss the criteria of using a source that is more often than not, accurate. It's like finding one piece of gold in a pile of ****. It's still a pile of **** after the fact.

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agreed but if youre dismissing a source simply because of your own biases... well, obviously there's a bit of an issue. there needs to be some give and take with these kinds of things. an understanding that no person or company will ever be entirely accurate all the time and just because it alligns with what you think does not mean it is inherently more valid.

Well that's the main problem with finding sources in general. You get too many sides of the same problem and it just becomes a bigger problem. That's why if you choose to use a source for your argument, it's best to have backup in order to backup your choice of sources. We're both on the same page obviously but of course people are going to look at HuffPost and instantly remember "man, remember when they made all those articles that simply made no sense? Yeah, who's going to take them seriously." Like I mentionted to elph, just because HuffPost posts once in a while a good article with factual evidence, doesn't dispute the fact that they are still indeed a ****ty source to choose.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	I want to hear from people who have worked on both sides of the aisle. Who don't come across as blind shills. Who will call a spade a spade independant of party. Lame retort Q. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”