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Frownland 05-14-2017 02:08 PM

Forbes
NPR
Wall Street Journal

Chula Vista 05-14-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by frownland (Post 1835378)
forbes
npr
wall street journal

lol!

djchameleon 05-14-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1835378)
Forbes
NPR
Wall Street Journal

Are you secretly IDM but forgot to switch accounts?

Key 05-14-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1835378)
Forbes
NPR
Wall Street Journal

you sure about that one?

Frownland 05-14-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1835382)
lol!

Name 3 better ones or at least tell me what you dislike about those quality sources. I guess there's BBC and AP.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1835384)
Are you secretly IDM but forgot to switch accounts?

No I'm overtly TIM and am tired of switching accounts.

djchameleon 05-14-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1835387)



No I'm overtly TIM and am tired of switching accounts.

My bad

I always call TIM, IDM for some reason.

Key 05-14-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1835387)
Name 3 better ones or at least tell me what you dislike about those quality sources. I guess there's BBC and AP.

Wall Street Journal is on par with being one of the most unreliable sources to date. They make **** up that gets passed off as fact. NPR is fine. Don't even get me started on Forbes.

Frownland 05-14-2017 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1835389)
Wall Street Journal is on par with being one of the most unreliable sources to date. They make **** up that gets passed off as fact.

Maybe if you confuse the editorial and news sections they are.

The Identity Matrix 05-14-2017 02:16 PM

I'll agree NPR is legit.
CNN can be good same with NBC. There are a few aspects of those networks that can kill it. I don't necessarily believe in a one stop shop for news. Too many biases running around. I'd rather check multiple sources at a time. That is nothing against those who do believe in any of the above sources. Very few sites are garbage, buzzfeed, Huffpaint, vox, etc.

Key 05-14-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1835390)
Maybe if you confuse the editorial and news sections they are.

You're trying to dig yourself out of a hole and it's not working.

Frownland 05-14-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1835391)
I don't necessarily believe in a one stop shop for news. Too many biases running around. I'd rather check multiple sources at a time.

This guy gets it.

Key 05-14-2017 02:19 PM

Pretty sure it's a universal known thing that you can't trust one news site on its own. If you don't know that, you're just an idiot.

The Identity Matrix 05-14-2017 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1835395)
Pretty sure it's a universal known thing that you can't trust one news site on its own. If you don't know that, you're just an idiot.

I only vocalized it because that's what Chula seemed to be implying. I could be wrong though and that wasn't his intent.

Key 05-14-2017 02:22 PM

I've always cross referenced stories because it's literally the smart thing to do. Then again, you have people using Wikipedia as a reliable source for info and that's just ridiculous.

Frownland 05-14-2017 02:22 PM

I think we can all agree that Huffpost is utter garbage.

Key 05-14-2017 02:22 PM

Oh yes, I agree.

The Identity Matrix 05-14-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1835398)
I've always cross referenced stories because it's literally the smart thing to do. Then again, you have people using Wikipedia as a reliable source for info and that's just ridiculous.

At least wikipedia can be edited by intelligent people. You don't have that option with most online blogs parading themselves as "news" sources.

Key 05-14-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Identity Matrix (Post 1835406)
At least wikipedia can be edited by intelligent people. You don't have that option with most online blogs parading themselves as "news" sources.

This is the only news site I trust tbh:

Robert Baccetti Articles - TheRichest

Chula Vista 05-14-2017 02:26 PM

I don't really care what the network is. I care about who's talking. I have a ton of regard for people like David Gergen and Fareed Zakaria.

Most of the rest of them are simply partisan shills.

I'd screw Kayleigh Mcenany in a heartbeat though.

The Identity Matrix 05-14-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1835408)
I don't really care what the network is. I care about who's talking. I have a ton of regard for people like David Gergen and Fareed Zakaria.

Most of the rest of them are simply partisan shills.

I'd screw Kayleigh Mcenany in a heartbeat though.

Besides the final point. I agree with you.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-14-2017 02:27 PM

so what youre really saying is that its only good news if it fits your narrative

The Identity Matrix 05-14-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1835410)
so what youre really saying is that its only good news if it fits your narrative

Yes, that is my whole point. You hit the nail right on the head there Qwert.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-14-2017 02:29 PM

it was directed at chula my man

Chula Vista 05-14-2017 02:30 PM

I want to hear from people who have worked on both sides of the aisle. Who don't come across as blind shills. Who will call a spade a spade independant of party.

Lame retort Q.

The Identity Matrix 05-14-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1835412)
it was directed at chula my man

Oh, my bad. I was the last to post and you didn't quote so I assumed.

I shouldn't assume....

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-14-2017 02:34 PM

nah i was genuinely just saying that's what it sounds like to me. if somebody posted a HuffPost link you wouldnt bat an eye, but if it was Fox, you'd dismiss immediately. same probably goes for Ant but as an opposite. no big deal, but calling them shills just because they disagree with you is obv biased.

and nbd TIM, i would quote if i wasnt on mobile and trolling Chula.

Key 05-14-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1835410)
so what youre really saying is that its only good news if it fits your narrative

Well, to be fair, and while it's unfortunate, this is how most of the world works. Same goes with debating though. If it doesn't fit your narrative, of course you're going to push your point toward them. BUT, the main issue isn't what fits your narrative, it's finding what actually holds factual basis AND fits your narrative. Nothing wrong with using articles to prove your own point as long as it's accurate. Unfortunately most people at this forum don't know the single thing about using articles as factual evidence. Myself included.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-14-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1835418)
Well, to be fair, and while it's unfortunate, this is how most of the world works. Same goes with debating though. If it doesn't fit your narrative, of course you're going to push your point toward them. BUT, the main issue isn't what fits your narrative, it's finding what actually holds factual basis AND fits your narrative. Nothing wrong with using articles to prove your own point as long as it's accurate. Unfortunately most people at this forum don't know the single thing about using articles as factual evidence. Myself included.

agreed but if youre dismissing a source simply because of your own biases... well, obviously there's a bit of an issue. there needs to be some give and take with these kinds of things. an understanding that no person or company will ever be entirely accurate all the time and just because it alligns with what you think does not mean it is inherently more valid.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-14-2017 02:39 PM

there's so many reasons why trump is a bad person and an even worse president, so why have things like "he's creepy around his daughter" become hot button responses for why he's unfit for his position.

doubt he's done anything near what ol bill clinton did in his hayday

Key 05-14-2017 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835419)
Yeah but the events cited in that Huffpost did indeed occur Trump does say creepy af **** about his daughter

Whether it is true or not doesn't dismiss the criteria of using a source that is more often than not, accurate. It's like finding one piece of gold in a pile of ****. It's still a pile of **** after the fact.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1835420)
agreed but if youre dismissing a source simply because of your own biases... well, obviously there's a bit of an issue. there needs to be some give and take with these kinds of things. an understanding that no person or company will ever be entirely accurate all the time and just because it alligns with what you think does not mean it is inherently more valid.

Well that's the main problem with finding sources in general. You get too many sides of the same problem and it just becomes a bigger problem. That's why if you choose to use a source for your argument, it's best to have backup in order to backup your choice of sources. We're both on the same page obviously but of course people are going to look at HuffPost and instantly remember "man, remember when they made all those articles that simply made no sense? Yeah, who's going to take them seriously." Like I mentionted to elph, just because HuffPost posts once in a while a good article with factual evidence, doesn't dispute the fact that they are still indeed a ****ty source to choose.

Xurtio 05-14-2017 03:02 PM

NPR, Reuters, twitter

OccultHawk 05-14-2017 03:10 PM

Huffington Post is liberal but they don't post blatant lies.

djchameleon 05-14-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835419)
Yeah but the events cited in that Huffpost did indeed occur Trump does say creepy af **** about his daughter


People that claim to check multiple sources are incapable of sorting through a specific article and taking out the facts. They rather just look at the source and immediately disregard it.


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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1835421)

doubt he's done anything near what ol bill clinton did in his hayday

I'm pretty sure he is on the same level as Bill or even worse. Bill just got caught and decided not to pay off his victims.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1835420)
agreed but if youre dismissing a source simply because of your own biases... well, obviously there's a bit of an issue. there needs to be some give and take with these kinds of things. an understanding that no person or company will ever be entirely accurate all the time and just because it alligns with what you think does not mean it is inherently more valid.

This is true for the most part.

The Identity Matrix 05-14-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1835440)
Huffington Post is liberal but they don't post blatant lies.

Lol.

Goofle 05-14-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1835440)
Huffington Post is liberal but they don't post blatant lies.

:rofl:

The Batlord 05-14-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1835421)
there's so many reasons why trump is a bad person and an even worse president, so why have things like "he's creepy around his daughter" become hot button responses for why he's unfit for his position.

doubt he's done anything near what ol bill clinton did in his hayday

Cause it's hilarious. But if Ivanka were my daughter I'd be creepy too.

Frownland 05-14-2017 05:58 PM


Chula Vista 05-14-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1835513)
But if Ivanka were my daughter I'd be creepy too.

You don't need Ivanka to justify anything about your life dude.

Chula Vista 05-29-2017 09:42 AM

Trump has Hannity on a retainer.

Frownland 05-29-2017 09:52 AM

http://www.smobserved.com/home/cms_d...2/0/2020/s_top


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