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Old 07-02-2017, 08:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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''Staged Video Shows 'Refugee' Fake Drowning''

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Do you genuinely find this convincing?
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you genuinely find this convincing?
It's pretty clear to see they're staging it
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's pretty clear to see they're staging it
...staging what? The video makes zero attempt to establish what it was used for. Could be a budget film for all we know.
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Obviously the entire Syrian Civil War is a hoax!
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...staging what? The video makes zero attempt to establish what it was used for. Could be a budget film for all we know.
Well most of the refugee footage I've seen from PJW has been tracked on Marine Traffic from the Tripoli area to around the port of Catania so it's most likely around that area, also 15 of the boats they regularly tracked went straight from Libya to Italy so its most likely from that part of the sea but I don't buy for a minute that its someone making a film I mean come on
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Well most of the refugee footage I've seen from PJW has been tracked on Marine Traffic from the Tripoli area to around the port of Catania so it's most likely around that area of the sea but I don't buy for a minute that its someone making a film I mean come on
Super scientific thought process there buddy. Nobody would ever have a drowning scene in a film.

I'm glad you've found a video that will help you believe what you want to believe. Some people can't find those so easily.
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Super scientific thought process there buddy. Nobody would ever have a drowning scene in a film.

I'm glad you've found a video that will help you believe what you want to believe. Some people can't find those as easily.
Not really in the position to be condescending when you see a video with clear narrative and chock it up to ''oh, they must be making an independent movie''
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Bringing up someone's ideology is the same level of weak discussion move too, you know.

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Not really in the position to be condescending when you see a video with clear narrative and chock it up to ''oh, they must be making an independent movie''
Nah, I've not made a firm case for either direction, just stating one of the possibilities that the video fails to explore. You're the only one who's certain of its use despite glaring lack of evidence, which is what my original post was about. Be careful man, you're eating up propaganda with both hands, you're going to choke.

If CNN made a story on a similarly flimsy premise built on assumptions, you wouldn't believe a word of it. Come on man.
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