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Old 06-06-2017, 07:28 PM   #711 (permalink)
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Um... Muhammad Ali converted to Islam and was considerably a pretty ****ing smart man...



I think it's mostly in the rural parts of Egypt... pretty sure women are allowed to be educated in Cairo.
Muhammad Ali gave his wife grief about how long her skirt was and turned around and cheated her. I don't think he is at all great as he said he was.
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Old 06-06-2017, 07:56 PM   #712 (permalink)
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Muhammad Ali gave his wife grief about how long her skirt was and turned around and cheated her. I don't think he is at all great as he said he was.
The guy had faults especially in terms of attitude, but it doesn't mean that he wasn't educationally and skillfully intelligent.
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I praised him for rejecting Vietnam and ridiculed him for following the Nation of Islam.
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:49 PM   #714 (permalink)
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You know that of the 841 posts in this thread you two guys have 259 of them (31%).
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:53 PM   #715 (permalink)
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You know that of the 841 posts in this thread you two guys have 259 of them (31%).
Makes sense. They're the most devout European muslims I've ever met.
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Old 06-06-2017, 08:59 PM   #716 (permalink)
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You know that of the 841 posts in this thread you two guys have 259 of them (31%).
Who is your avatar and why?
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Who? The guy who most believe was the Zodiac killer, Arthur Leigh Allen.

Why? Cause I just the movie Zodiac.
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I guess going back to the post that sparked the convo, you're good.

The low IQ of the radical converts in question can reflect greater factors like you suggest, such as poverty (no access to education) or lack of infrastructure which could lead them to more drastic measures. I think that's why it's so common in war torn or 3rd world countries, and is likely the reason why terrorism has the highest death toll in the least stable Middle East and African countries.
this is a common assumption about islamic extremists, however there have been numerous studies conducted on the issue since 9/11 which suggest the exact opposite: islamic extremists are statistically more likely to be wealthy and well educated than their non extremist counterparts.

i can't post links but here's a few excerpts from the guardian 2016 study on ISIS recruits

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Recruits to Islamic militant groups are likely to be well educated and relatively wealthy, with those aspiring to be suicide bombers among the best off, a study by the World Bank has found.

The research, based on internal records from the Islamic State group, will reinforce the growing conclusion among specialists that there is no obvious link between poverty or educational levels and radicalisation.

The data, leaked by a disaffected former member of Isis in March, includes basic information on 3,803 foreign recruits from all over the Islamic world and Europe who joined the organisation between early 2013 and late 2014, when the flow of volunteers to the organisation reached a peak.
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The educational level of recruits from north Africa or the Middle East was significantly greater than that of most of their compatriots, the researchers found.

“A large fraction have gone on to study at university … Recruits from Africa, south and east Asia and the Middle East are significantly more educated than individuals from their cohort in their region of origin,” the report said.

The recruits were also asked by Isis what role they hoped to play within the group. The proportions of those who wanted to be administrators and “suicide fighters” increased with education, the report’s authors noted.

Neither inequality nor poverty was a driver of involvement in violent extremism, and wealthier countries were more likely to supply foreign recruits for Isis, the report found.

“In countries with a large Muslim population, low degrees of religiosity, low levels of trust in religious institutions and strong government and social control of religion seem to be risk factors of radicalisation,” the report said.
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