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Old 06-06-2017, 04:18 PM   #691 (permalink)
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This is crazy true and it's surprising how many people don't recognize it. I mean, the bible is like three times longer than the quran.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:27 PM   #692 (permalink)
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Maybe the terrorism has more to do with lower IQ than religion? But I doubt that's a fun topic to discuss.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:32 PM   #693 (permalink)
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Maybe the terrorism has more to do with lower IQ than religion? But I doubt that's a fun topic to discuss.
I'd wager that (for the most part) a low IQ would be a major factor when it came to joining a religion in the first place
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:34 PM   #694 (permalink)
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I don't think so. Plenty of hugely intelligent people are religious in one way or another. The level of religiosity and likelihood of becoming an extremist probably heightens as the IQ drops though.
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it's only "obvious" to you because you're a bigot, meaning nobody should take your opinion seriously

you're going to attribute things to Islam itself because you came in with that bias against it and the people who practice
I didn't have a bias against it until Lower Manhattan looked like Sarajevo.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:45 PM   #696 (permalink)
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I don't think so. Plenty of hugely intelligent people are religious in one way or another. The level of religiosity and likelihood of becoming an extremist probably heightens as the IQ drops though.
How many of them were born into it though? That's different from "joining" a religion, which I'd wager is closer to what Ziggy describes.

Interesting side note, I've seen research before that suggests new converts of any religion are more likely to be zealots than people who grew up in it.
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I would believe that at face value without seeing studies. Obviously, it would be nice to see some kind of source to back it up.

One of the huge worries in England at the moment is radicalization within prisons as you get (generally) impressionable low IQ dickheads becoming fanatics.
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Um... Muhammad Ali converted to Islam and was considerably a pretty ****ing smart man...

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"Muslims" don't do this, Saudi Arabia does this, Pakistan does this, Egypt, etc. theocratic traditional regimes oppress women yes
I think it's mostly in the rural parts of Egypt... pretty sure women are allowed to be educated in Cairo.
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Obviously some converts may not be radical, zealots or low IQ. We are just discussing reasons other than the religion itself that may increase the level of fanaticism or likelihood of being a terrorist.
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