Islam in Europe

OccultHawk · 04-22-2017, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69

lol

i choose to stay in lebanon because i actually am more comfortable here

i don't understand why europeans think other people are out to destroy their 'culture' so can't relate to that sorry. if u are going to use that then why are europeans trying to destroy our middle eastern culture by constantly bombing the **** out of the middle east?? why should we take it but not you???????????????

You shouldn't. I'm opposed to western powers interfering with the affairs of the Middle East. If your sovereign space is encroached on or attacked you should act accordingly.

OccultHawk · 04-22-2017, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

This isn't even about hating Islam. You just said you're for racialism basically to preserve cultures. That is pure neo-Nazism. I'm pretty sure no good will ever come out of that.

Well post a gif. I don't think the entire world should be muddled with multi-culturism. Tokyo doesn't need to look like Paris, London, and NYC. The US which was founded by genocidal immigrants shouldn't force their ideas of multiculturalism on Europe because it's not applicable. If Europe is looking for a historical precedent they can see how immigration worked out for our indigenous peoples. And last I checked Hitler took his policies on the road.

OccultHawk · 04-22-2017, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Gotta preserve that white European culture I understand

I do think it's worth preserving.

OccultHawk · 04-22-2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Can't mix the races errr cultures!

Do you think that every culture in the world should embrace multiculturalism?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 04-22-2017, 01:34 PM

the idea that culture A is more important than culture B just because you were born into it is a real issue

OccultHawk · 04-22-2017, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

the idea that culture A is more important than culture B just because you were born into it is a real issue

Yeah, if you take it to the extreme to justify warfare it's very problematic. But if you say I live in Culture A so it's more important to me than Culture B but I recognize their right to peacefully exist and if we interact it has to be mutually respectful and beneficial, like trade should be, isn't that enough? If one culture chooses to integrate that's fine but it shouldn't be forced on another culture. No one should be expected to sacrifice their own identity at expense of another's. To some people that might sound fine but then when I extend it and say I can understand why some French people feel culturally threatened I meet resistance. I also don't want to live near any sizable Muslim minority. I like smoking weed, women in bikinis, porn, open gay love, all kinds of music and I do not believe my values and how I want to live are compatible with Islam. That's how I feel. I don't care if that makes me a bigot or whatever.

OccultHawk · 04-22-2017, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Duh

To me that means you want to impose a cultural imperialism of sameness on to the entire planet.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 04-22-2017, 02:04 PM

never thought id see the day where I agreed with a commie

The Batlord · 04-22-2017, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yeah, if you take it to the extreme to justify warfare it's very problematic. But if you say I live in Culture A so it's more important to me than Culture B but I recognize their right to peacefully exist and if we interact it has to be mutually respectful and beneficial, like trade should be, isn't that enough? If one culture chooses to integrate that's fine but it shouldn't be forced on another culture. No one should be expected to sacrifice their own identity at expense of another's. To some people that might sound fine but then when I extend it and say I can understand why some French people feel culturally threatened I meet resistance. I also don't want to live near any sizable Muslim minority. I like smoking weed, women in bikinis, porn, open gay love, all kinds of music and I do not believe my values and how I want to live are compatible with Islam. That's how I feel. I don't care if that makes me a bigot or whatever.

I can sympathize with this, but I don't think cultures can remain separate and respect one another. They just become "the other" and are viewed as inferior and a potential threat that is stereotyped due to a lack of understanding and familiarity. The preservation of culture is great in theory, but in practice breeds bigotry. I'd rather culture become diluted and people grow closer.

Your example of Japan is prime. Japan has a very interesting and valuable culture, but their isolation has also bred well-documented xenophobia. Obviously all Japanese aren't bigots, but there's definitely a dickish aspect to Japanese culture concerning other cultures.

The Batlord · 04-22-2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Multi-culturalists call for an embrace of heritage for diversity ie African Americans to retain their African culture in addition to their American one

Hence "multi" as opposed to 1 culture

Used in a national sense the US is multicultural because it has a large array of cultures within it not one

What part of African American culture is still African? I'm sure there are still ghosts of African culture, but they've become so Americanized that their culture is simply African American. This is kind of the point. When minority cultures are exposed to different, majority cultures in close proximity, there's a dilution of culture that eventually subsumes the original culture to the point that it ceases to be relevant except as a memory.