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Bringing up someone's ideology is the same level of weak discussion move too, you know.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1851884)

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I actually made it up to **** with elph but it turned out to be kinda true.

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Finally, Mark picks as one of his "very, very favourite records of all" something by his fellow curmudgeon Frank Zappa: The Mothers Of Invention's finest hour, 1967's We're Only In It For The Money, which satirised the contemporary hippy movement with a ruthlessness somewhat at odds with the peace and love dictates of the time.

"I just think it's one of the funniest records I've heard," he says. "I like Freak Out! too, that still sounds great, really powerful, but We're Only In It For The Money is so relevant to the Manchester scene today, it's unbelievable. Like, I walk down Whitworth Street and someone comes up and says, Mark Smith, you created this scene, where can I get some E? Or pot? Ha ha! I say, I don't bloody know! He says, Well, me and the guys came down in a van from Wales to get the scene, but they won't let us in The Hacienda! And they've got the Beloved/Soup Dragons centre-parting, and they're asking about drugs. It's just like We're Only In It For The Money!

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Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1851885)

Not really in the position to be condescending when you see a video with clear narrative and chock it up to ''oh, they must be making an independent movie''

Nah, I've not made a firm case for either direction, just stating one of the possibilities that the video fails to explore. You're the only one who's certain of its use despite glaring lack of evidence, which is what my original post was about. Be careful man, you're eating up propaganda with both hands, you're going to choke.

If CNN made a story on a similarly flimsy premise built on assumptions, you wouldn't believe a word of it. Come on man.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1851889)

Nah, I feel its clear so I'm on board unless clearly proven otherwise for the time being, but if CNN covered something flimsy but I felt it was clear enough then I'd say fair enough until proven otherwise but I wouldn't know what they cover because I don't watch CNN, I barely get any of their channels here on Sky

So basically you're saying it's good to have faith in your assumptions? Again, super scientific there.

And you only think that because it already aligns with your ideology. Of course nobody is ever aware of this and when they're made aware they usually just pin it on the other person being a moron so idk why I'm even making this post.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1851896)

So basically you're saying it's good to have faith in your assumptions?

Nope, only if I think there is enough evidence supporting the assumption at the time which in this case I do

At the end of the day we simply don't know what that was being filmed for but it's definitely not to stage a refugee drowning.

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Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1851902)

Nope, only if I think there is enough evidence of the assumption at the time which in this case I do

Because it confirms what you already believe.

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1851903)

At the end of the day we simply don't know what that was being filmed for but it could possibly be to stage a refugee drowning.

fify m9 ;)

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1851903)

At the end of the day we simply don't know what that was being filmed for.

Exactly my point this whole time.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1851909)

Exactly my point this whole time.

If you're open to the possibility it could be being used to fake a drowning then I agree with you :eek:

Is there a big story it debunks if it is?