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Old 07-01-2017, 03:36 PM   #961 (permalink)
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Like I said, I'd go farther and define terrorism as a form of violent, political movements. Al Qaeda, the IRA, whatever groups bomb abortion clinics (assuming they have any legitimate organization). Calling Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber terrorists is technically correct, but does it make any sense to equate those individuals with those groups? They're different animals. What purpose does it serve besides diluting the idea of what terrorist organizations do to soften the blow of calling Islamic terrorist movements terrorists?
That's too far the other way.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:07 PM   #962 (permalink)
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I think we should basically retire the world all together tbh because the way it's been manipulated and co-opted by politicians ie "War on Terror" which is utterly meaningless like saying "War on violence"

so it's obvious they want to equate terrorism specifically to groups as you say and even more specifically to Muslim groups and it just muddies the waters, doublethink all over the place

and in the more nefarious cases conservatives want to say "War on Islam" but they can't so instead it's "War on terrorism"
That's the thing with terrorism. It is indeed a concept used more by extremist Muslim groups. There are Christian groups that fit the bill, and I'm sure by other religions that don't have the same newsworthy status, but Muslim religious extremists don't really have a serious analogue besides the IRA that I know of. It's a term that's used to describe groups like Al Qaeda and Hamas because governments don't really have any polite way of saying that they're not using it specifically to describe Al Qaeda and Hamas.
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That's the thing with terrorism. It is indeed a concept used more by extremist Muslim groups. There are Christian groups that fit the bill, and I'm sure by other religions that don't have the same newsworthy status, but Muslim religious extremists don't really have a serious analogue besides the IRA that I know of. It's a term that's used to describe groups like Al Qaeda and Hamas because governments don't really have any polite way of saying that they're not using it specifically to describe Al Qaeda and Hamas.
Tamil Tigers? FARC? Bader-Meinhoff? Red Hand?
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:13 PM   #964 (permalink)
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Can't forget those Buddhist terrorists.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:16 PM   #965 (permalink)
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This is where everyone will hate me but seriously Muslims don't belong in ****ing Burma.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:19 PM   #966 (permalink)
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I'd be surprised if there weren't other analogues, and it's definitely hard to differentiate between revolutions and terrorist organizations, to the point that it often becomes pointless. But I suppose the one important dividing line would be if the movement has any international status. But then there are Islamic terrorist organizations that don't have any international status, and the idea that Islamic terrorism is all linked is obviously silly. Which is why I generally just say Islamic terrorism when I mean Islamic terrorism. Which is really what we're all talking about.

It's really all just confusing as **** simply because everyone is trying to apply a general term to Islamic terrorism so that "Islam" isn't in the phrase. So I guess I'm doing the same **** that I'm talking about with using "international". Terrorism is Islamic terrorism simply because that's really what we're all really talking about when we say terrorism.
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