Chula Vista

Everyone realizes that most of the people who are doing the actual killing (suicide bombs, airplanes, hammers, machetes, etc.) are just sucker pawns in a game of wealthy, organized, and educated Islamic extremist ****ers, trying to advance an agenda against the west by manipulating a bunch of gullible, disenfranchised individuals who believe in multiple virgins and Nirvana after they destroy themselves in the name of a distorted "ISLAM"?

It's obviously expanded from the origins (watch Four Lions), but the basic concept is still the modus operandi.

Blaming the religion itself is just so wrong.

1.6 billion people.... Do you people actually understand the enormity of that number and how it relates to the big picture?

Broad brush = IGNORANCE

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Goofle

You would respond this way if I proclaimed my preference for white bread.

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djchameleon

I know he isn't. He is being dead serious and trying to slightly hide behind humor but his humor button is broken.

I am a ****ing blast!

The sheer number of people that are Muslim is what makes it seem like there are huge armies of extremists. There likely may be with a number that big but the percent of Muslims that are extremists are small.

A small percentage of 1.6 Billion is still a **** load of people.

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Frownland

Nah, you're just too ideological to find anyone you disagree with remotely funny. He's hysterical.

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djchameleon

That might be true but I know when people are serious about something then try to back peddle and push it off as a joke. He was clearly doing that. I know because I used to do that so much myself.

Just like I don't find this funny. I get it is supposed to be edgy but it is just boring and unfunny.

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Frownland

Ja and giving Chula **** for a serial killer avatar and accusing him of being the Zodiac's protege is way funnier than that.

He makes me laugh. That's all that matters.

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riseagainstrocks

On the day this happens, I will agree with you that every single suicide bomber was a reprehensible person and mourn the innocent victims of their senseless act. Considering that would mean 1.3-1.6 billion people would be dead (at the absolute minimum), presumably including everyone who ever called themselves Muslim, I would imagine you'd be pleased at this outcome.

Do you think that without religion there would be no crime? No murder? No suicidal attacks on civilians? Is your problem the violence or the "reason" why the violence was committed? I focus on the violence, because there is no evidence that the ostensible "reason", Islam/Allah/Sharia, is what triggered the event in the first place. I know this because otherwise, your vision of a world full of (for a brief time at least) Islamic suicide bombers would be horrifically true, instead of a hyperbolic fever dream of an admitted bigot that can't separate the fringe from the whole, the extreme from the moderate, or the possible weakness of faith from its possible malevolence.

And by the way, not thinking that Islam, and therefore all adherents to it, does not actively encourage self-immolation, does NOT mean I turn a blind eye to the stated rationale of suicide bombers in their pre-martyrdom videos. They are 1000% doing it for god. Or for a free Chechnya/Syria/Iraq. Or to protest the House of Saud.

But seriously, we agree that extremism is terrible. I just don't take that extra step and say because extremism in this part of the world is more common than the West and most extremists in this region present themselves as devout Muslims, therefore all the ills of this society can be traced back to very nature of their religion. It ignores history.

Also, who this cassius clay/imam mahdi character?

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OccultHawk

I've decided I'm declaring myself victorious in this debate. All random googlers who stumble upon this thread undecided will see that I'm addressing reality and y'all are pretending you live on another planet. Thanks for playing. You fought nobly for a kind but hopeless cause. Your bravery is to be commended.

Stay tuned for updates on The Terrorist Challenge.

Cuthbert

Worrying.

Anybody disagree with this British Muslim's proposals? Stop Faith schools, ban headscarves for young girls and deport all known terrorists: Loose Women star's 10 step plan to stop Islamist radicalisation - Mirror Online

Frownland

Deporting known terrorists is a no brainer. Faith schools is pretty ambiguous but I hesitantly agree. Headscarves should in no way be banned though.

Uh huh. Because ignoring all other factors outside of religion makes you look intelligent.

So for that, do the Muslims get a point if their victims are Muslim?

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