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Cuthbert 06-04-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1842436)
obviously you continue bombing them and attack their religion in your country that'll slow the recruitment

What do you suggest we do?

imam mahdi 06-04-2017 03:31 PM

this might be kind of a crazy idea.. but how about reverse psychology? like act like we love it when they bomb us for no reason? so every time they have an attack, we have a parade celebrating the attack and thanking them for their service?

Exo 06-04-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by imam mahdi (Post 1842441)
this might be kind of a crazy idea.. but how about reverse psychology? like act like we love it when they bomb us for no reason? so every time they have an attack, we have a parade celebrating the attack and thanking them for their service?

Hmmmm, piss off a whole bunch of people and achieve nothing because this is real life and not a horrible TV show trying to be clever? Nah, I think I'll pass.

Rjinn 06-04-2017 03:51 PM

I like Queen Rania's ideas about stopping this war. I don't think it's anyone's job to defend their identity however if this was given a go it may work.

Queen Rania: Let's Drop The First 'I' In ISIS. There's Nothing Islamic About Them | HuffPost

imam mahdi 06-04-2017 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1842443)
might as well ask what can be done about Western state sponsored terrorism

you'd need one of these attacks everyday for the next decade to try and match the horrors we've inflicted on the regions that are now home to ISIS

and actually realizing this would be the first step in taking measures that might help

lol

so recognizing that we are wrong will stop the islamists from hating us

are you so sure about that?

imam mahdi 06-04-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1842445)
Hmmmm, piss off a whole bunch of people and achieve nothing because this is real life and not a horrible TV show trying to be clever? Nah, I think I'll pass.

everybody's a critic

imam mahdi 06-04-2017 04:11 PM

essentially you are saying its all our fault and the path forward to solving it is recognizing our guilt... so how do you pursue that in a way that is going to stop the people who are already driven to kill us?

i've said it once, i'll say it again

you have to look at guys like sayyid qutb to understand the modern manifestation of islamic terror. the motivations are both religious and political. there is no either or, that's a false dichotomy.

sayyid was a man who lived in egypt in the early to late 20th century and was a dissident of the secular regime. he sought to create a state in egypt that was ruled by islamic principles and sharia law. he was an inspiration for the likes of al zawahiri and osama bin laden. he laid the foundation on which ISIS is attempting to build an actual islamic caliphate.

do they hate western imperialism? yes, because it subverts their own imperialist ambitions. would they still hate the west without western imperialism? almost certainly yes, because they view us as godless, decadent, and slaves to our carnal nature.

that is the ideology we are talking about in a nutshell. trying to put the shutters on and only speak about western foreign policy is an ironically ethnocentric pov espoused by leftist cowards who feel such immense guilt for being the benefactors of the current global imperialism that they neurotically suppose that everything every other culture does is somehow a reaction to our own, landing us : western civilization - neatly in the center of the universe.

OccultHawk 06-04-2017 04:16 PM

What's your solution, boss?

imam mahdi 06-04-2017 04:19 PM

i don't know. as i said i have been considering converting but i still can't grow a proper beard.

OccultHawk 06-04-2017 04:27 PM

Well

I'd say you got the problem summed up pretty well. Maybe we should try not to think about it.


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