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OccultHawk 06-01-2017 03:54 PM

Maybe that remaining one percent hasn't been vaccinated.

The Batlord 06-01-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1841807)
There's usually ties but reasons can vary

Why not ask the opposite question if Islam itself is problematic why is it that 99% of Western Muslims are fairly secular?

Islam by itself pretty clearly does not make individuals violent

My question there would be Africa. I'm far from educated on the matter so it's a legit question, but both Islam and Christianity seem to be pretty hardline and violent in those parts, or at least in the parts that get press, and yet the muslims seem to get involved with terrorism while the Christians console themselves with just murdering gays in the streets.

That might be a complete misrepresentation, but it's the gist I get.

GD 06-01-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1841807)
There's usually ties but reasons can vary

Why not ask the opposite question if Islam itself is problematic why is it that 99% of Western Muslims are fairly secular?

The culture one is raised in obviously influences religious practice and interpretation to a large extent. Muslims in the west are largely secular because most western countries are secular.
What I more wanted to get into, was what factors you think puts western muslims at risk of radicalization, and why do they not become conducive to violent extremism when applied to non-muslims?

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Islam by itself pretty clearly does not make individuals violent
Never tried to argue any such thing

GD 06-01-2017 04:56 PM

No. When I said "violent extremism" I wasn't referring exclusively to islamic extremism.

Neapolitan 06-01-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1841654)
This. It is more a travesty to be called one than to recognize the impact of racism.

It's certainly a travesty when it is slander and it's done to ruin the good reputation of someone who is not a bigot.

djchameleon 06-01-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1841869)
It's certainly a travesty when it is slander and it's done to ruin the good reputation of someone who is not a bigot.

Yeah because having a tarnished reputation is just as horrible as being discriminated against. :banghead:

Waaah my reputation is tarnished. What a privileged complaint.

Chula Vista 06-02-2017 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1841727)
It is pretty hilarious. Like the three stooges but they're terrorists.


Four Lions is freaking beyond hilarious. You simply must sit back and enjoy this movie. Classic.

Cuthbert 06-02-2017 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1841949)
Yeah because having a tarnished reputation is just as horrible as being discriminated against. :banghead:

Waaah my reputation is tarnished. What a privileged complaint.

Strange post.

Making accusations against somebody with no justification and then basically saying they can't complain about it because of 'privilege' :rolleyes: is unbelievably cuntish.

djchameleon 06-02-2017 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1841977)
Strange post.

Making accusations against somebody with no justification and then basically saying they can't complain about it because of 'privilege' :rolleyes: is unbelievably cuntish.

They can complain about anything they want but it still isn't the same as actually being held back from certain things due to discrimination and prejudice

The word privilege just has you triggered.

Neapolitan 06-02-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1841949)
Yeah because having a tarnished reputation is just as horrible as being discriminated against. :banghead:

Waaah my reputation is tarnished. What a privileged complaint.

So when African Americans who have to deal with a tarnish reputation because of stereotypes your reply would be "Waaah my reputation is tarnished." Profiling is OK because if someone complain about being unfairly targeted because that group has a bad reputation your response would be "Waaah my reputation is tarnished."

If you can't afford one man the dignity of a good reputation how can you afford to give respect to a whole groups of people? ... or (if you're in the habit of thinking only about race) give respect to a whole race of people? To justify the hatred you have for someone by simply labeling him or her a "bigot" then commence hating them, you become the very person you hate. "Let no man pull you so low as to hate him."
-Martin Luther King Jr.


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