Islam in Europe

Trollheart · 04-09-2017, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It has one of the highest infant mortality rates in the world. Why is that the fault of their religion? I don't know. But if every where you go smells like **** it's time to wash your ass.

This destroys your argument, and out of your own mouth. Nothing you say now has merit anymore. You just said "Why is X the way it is? I don't know but I think it's ****." Great debating skills man.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

One, I don't believe people choose their beliefs. Two, no, I don't.

Of course they can if they want to. I was brought up a Roman Catholic but when I was old enough I said **** that **** and I don't believe. People have free will.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

My conclusion is that Islam sucks EVERYWHERE.

You have nothing to back this up, therefore you suck and your arguments die in the dust. Epic fail.

OccultHawk · 04-09-2017, 05:00 PM

So I guess you're figuring that it's cool to live in a place where the majority of people believe in Sharia Law? That's awesome. Get a Muslim majority in your country. See how homosexuals are treated. See how women are treated. See how non-believers are treated. I'm sure they'll be very respectful of our liberal ways and afford us the same tolerance we afford them since all around the world Muslim countries are bastions of liberation. And The never blow **** up, kill innocent people, start crazy wars, or any of that. What a delightful bunch! I'm so glad their faith is so prominent on earth. So much good has come out of it. Really.

So I'm full of ****? I'm not even talking about most Muslim countries. None of you can name one that isn't completely whack-o. It's by far the worst major religion earth. I'm not saying that to be hateful. It's obvious. I'm not going to pretend otherwise just to fit some kind of liberal mold.

Trollheart · 04-09-2017, 05:05 PM

Nobody's saying they're perfect, obviously, but when you come out with statements like "highest infant mortality rate" and then follow that up with "I don't know why" you lose credibility. Have you even considered that the mortality rate might be linked more to poverty and war than the religion? It's not as if Islam preaches infanticide, now is it? You can't blame everything bad about a people solely on their religion, no matter how you might want to.

What is your experience of Islam, anyway? Are you speaking here from a position of knowledge or just assumption? And though I may be wrong, I don't think all of Islam practices Sharia: is that not the more hardline part of it? I admit I don't know, but I feel it's unlikely every muslim lives under that kind of law, otherwise there would be no muslim women doctors, engineers, etc etc.

Justthefacts · 04-09-2017, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

So I guess you're figuring that it's cool to live in a place where the majority of people believe in Sharia Law? That's awesome. Get a Muslim majority in your country. See how homosexuals are treated. See how women are treated. See how non-believers are treated. I'm sure they'll be very respectful of our liberal ways and afford us the same tolerance we afford them since all around the world Muslim countries are bastions of liberation. And The never blow **** up, kill innocent people, start crazy wars, or any of that. What a delightful bunch! I'm so glad their faith is so prominent on earth. So much good has come out of it. Really.

So I'm full of ****? I'm not even talking about most Muslim countries. None of you can name one that isn't completely whack-o. It's by far the worst major religion earth. I'm not saying that to be hateful. It's obvious. I'm not going to pretend otherwise just to fit some kind of liberal mold.

I'm pretty sure every terrorist attack since 9/11 has been committed by a Muslim, srry people it's just the truth. We're at war with Islam and it's time we wake up and realize it. Anybody that says they had a wonderful experience with a muslim taxi driver or something and that not all of them are bad people is a stupid platitude and anecdotal evidence which doesn't amount to shit.

Isbjørn · 04-10-2017, 02:15 AM

I know it's cheesy to quote from seven pages back, but I couldn't let this pass.

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

I'm pretty sure every terrorist attack since 9/11 has been committed by a Muslim, srry people it's just the truth.

Norway has never even had a terrorist attack commited by a muslim. The 22nd of July attacks were committed by a white islamophobe.

Away from Europe for a second - innit funny how islamophobia has been steadily on the rise since 9/11, and just seems to be getting worse in all of the West? President Bush launched the War on Terror, then invaded Iraq two years later. Since then, the US, in cooperation with NATO, has ruined Afghanistan, Libya and now Syria. Funny how the "War on Terror" has used islamophobia to legitimize war against muslim countries

OccultHawk · 04-09-2017, 05:24 PM

Like I said already. Indonesia is a ****hole.

What's in the news in shiny Indonesia?

Men Accused of Gay Sex Could Be First Caned in Indonesia | Advocate.com

Surprise surprise surprise

Homophobia

Here's how gay men are being treated there

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The men could face 100 lashes with a cane, because even though Indonesia does not criminalize homosexuality, Sharia law does.

Indonesia has been lurching toward religiosity. A story last year in The New York Times warned of an impending antigay crackdown that spreads outside of Aceh. There were reports of “Islamic vigilantes” who searched boarding houses for gays and lesbians.

Trollheart · 04-09-2017, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Like I said already. Indonesia is a ****hole.

What's in the news in shiny Indonesia?

Men Accused of Gay Sex Could Be First Caned in Indonesia | Advocate.com

Surprise surprise surprise

Homophobia

Here's how gay men are being treated there

That's all right; you just keep cherry-picking the facts that suit you, to make it look like Islam is evil. Whatever makes you happy. It's completely biased though, and you know it. You could apply that to any religion if you try hard enough. So you see nothing good about Islam? They're all woman-hating, warmongering, Jihad-intent lunatics? Some days I really pity you, though they're not too frequent.

OccultHawk · 04-09-2017, 05:32 PM

I'm not cherry picking. News Google Indonesia. It's a current top story. Like I have to cherry pick to find homophobia in Islam? No matter how poor my debate skills are you really must be joking.

OccultHawk · 04-09-2017, 05:38 PM

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So you see nothing good about Islam? They're all woman-hating, warmongering, Jihad-intent lunatics?

Your questions are getting more and more desperate. No matter how deep I cut into Islam you need suggest I'm arguing things I'm not. If you need to construct straw men to deal with my assertions that are already openly aggressively anti-Islam you really don't have much to say in defense of this faith, do you?

**Frownland** · 04-09-2017, 05:38 PM

Can you name a country that isn't a ****hole period, OH?

04-09-2017, 05:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	So I guess you're figuring that it's cool to live in a place where the majority of people believe in Sharia Law? That's awesome. Get a Muslim majority in your country. See how homosexuals are treated. See how women are treated. See how non-believers are treated. I'm sure they'll be very respectful of our liberal ways and afford us the same tolerance we afford them since all around the world Muslim countries are bastions of liberation. And The never blow ** up, kill innocent people, start crazy wars, or any of that. What a delightful bunch! I'm so glad their faith is so prominent on earth. So much good has come out of it. Really. So I'm full of **? I'm not even talking about most Muslim countries. None of you can name one that isn't completely whack-o. It's by far the worst major religion earth. I'm not saying that to be hateful. It's obvious. I'm not going to pretend otherwise just to fit some kind of liberal mold. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

04-09-2017, 05:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Nobody's saying they're perfect, obviously, but when you come out with statements like "highest infant mortality rate" and then follow that up with "I don't know why" you lose credibility. Have you even considered that the mortality rate might be linked more to poverty and war than the religion? It's not as if Islam preaches infanticide, now is it? You can't blame everything bad about a people solely on their religion, no matter how you might want to. What is your experience of Islam, anyway? Are you speaking here from a position of knowledge or just assumption? And though I may be wrong, I don't think all of Islam practices Sharia: is that not the more hardline part of it? I admit I don't know, but I feel it's unlikely every muslim lives under that kind of law, otherwise there would be no muslim women doctors, engineers, etc etc. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

04-09-2017, 05:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I'm not cherry picking. News Google Indonesia. It's a current top story. Like I have to cherry pick to find homophobia in Islam? No matter how poor my debate skills are you really must be joking. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

04-09-2017, 05:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Can you name a country that isn't a ***hole period, OH? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

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