Islam in Europe

**Frownland** · 05-28-2017, 01:48 PM

I think as far as congratulatory messages go, if they are directly sent to a terrorist or their network, that would be enforceable. Things like social media posts are too murky to even get into imo.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-28-2017, 02:09 PM

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Would people be prepared, do you think, to be delayed getting into a venue in order to be able to exit it alive?

They did this at Villa. After whatever the most recent attack was in France and Germany at the time, the club made an announcement to supporters to turn up half an hour early and wear as little clothing as possible &no bags so that it's less time to search everyone. Think it was about three games until the end of the season.

Not possible for every game people will just start turning up at kick off and take ages getting in, searching 30k+ people. And also this guy came in at the end of the concert, when they are more relaxed with security as everyone is coming out (same at football they just open the large gates), so he didn't even have to go through the security.

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Deeper security checks but for ****'s sake when someone is on the radar DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. How many of these attackers were "being watched by the police"? What help is that? I'm sure that for every attack that carries through there are ten foiled, but that doesn't help the parents of those kids, or anyone else bereaved by one of these attacks.

Agree mate apparently this guy was reported five times. Look how long it took for Anjem Choudary to be sent to prison as well.

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Deportation for political views? I don't know: if you've been proven to be linked with terror organisations or hate speech, maybe there's a case for that. Not easy to take someone's home away. But there must be something that can be done, other than just holding up banners after the dead have been buried.

Seen some suggestions on the regulation of mosques and hate preachers but not sure how workable it all is.

Integration is an issue imo.

**Frownland** · 05-28-2017, 04:30 PM

What would you think about targeting mosques that known terrorists have associated with?

Trollheart · 05-28-2017, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What would you think about targeting mosques that known terrorists have associated with?

I guess it depends what you intend targeting them with!

OccultHawk · 05-28-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What would you think about targeting mosques that known terrorists have associated with?

That's fighting terrorism with terrorism.

Neapolitan · 05-28-2017, 05:59 PM

Gunmen in Egypt Force Coptic Christian Pilgrims From Buses and Kill 28

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CAIRO — Dressed in military fatigues, the gunmen waved down the bus filled with Christian pilgrims as it wended its way down a dusty side-road in the desert of western Egypt, headed toward a monastery.

Claiming to be security officers, the gunmen ordered the passengers to get out. They separated the men from the women and children, and instructed them to surrender their mobile phones. They told the men to recite the shahada, the Islamic declaration of faith.

When the men refused, the gunmen opened fire.

At least 28 people were killed, several with a single shot to the head, according to the Egyptian authorities and relatives of the victims, several of whom were children. The attack on Friday in Minya Province, 120 miles south of Cairo, was a coldblooded escalation of sectarian violence targeting minority Christians that has left more than 100 people dead since December and shaken the country’s government.

Egypt launches raids in Libya after attack on Coptic Christians kills 26

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Late last month, Pope Francis visited Egypt, in part to show his support for Christians who have been increasingly targeted by Islamist militants. After his visit, Isis vowed to escalate attacks against Christians, urging Muslims to steer clear of Christian gatherings and western embassies.

**Janszoon** · 05-28-2017, 06:16 PM

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Gunmen in Egypt Force Coptic Christian Pilgrims From Buses and Kill 28

Egypt launches raids in Libya after attack on Coptic Christians kills 26

Just FYI: Egypt is not in Europe.

Neapolitan · 05-28-2017, 06:41 PM

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Just FYI: Egypt is not in Europe.

I know where Egypt is, what I don't know why you have to point that out.

Trollheart · 05-28-2017, 06:52 PM

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I know where Egypt is, what I don't know why you have to point that out.

Look at the thread title again.

Neapolitan · 05-28-2017, 07:38 PM

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Look at the thread title again.

I know what the title is. I was in plug with MLM when he talked about doing a thread about islam. So I consider what I post as directed to MLM as a continuation of that conversation, whether or not it perfectly fits with the title name. What I post while may not always occur in Europe, it still contains the same main players i.e. ISIS, radical islamists etc.

05-28-2017, 01:48 PM	#441 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I think as far as congratulatory messages go, if they are directly sent to a terrorist or their network, that would be enforceable. Things like social media posts are too murky to even get into imo. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-28-2017, 04:30 PM	#443 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	What would you think about targeting mosques that known terrorists have associated with? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x