Hitler is the father of Israel.

I think at the end of the day if you draw Muhammad just to piss people off then you're an *******. But being an ******* shouldn't be enough to get you killed. It's a tricky subject.

It’s not tricky at all. The French government is defending free speech even in the face of violence.

Allah sucks my ding dong.

Muhammad is a retarded but muncher.

Islam sucks. That's why Europe loves it.

It's not tricky if you're a retard.

Yeah phrasing it that way isn't accurate maybe, but I meant that muslim radicalism is partly (but fundamentally) due to discrimination.

Really? Is that the cause of the bull**** in Pakistan and Indonesia and Iran ... do they just chronically discriminate against themselves?

I don't know much about it, except that colonialism ****ed things up, but I wasn't talking about that. This thread is called 'Islam in Europe'

it's tricky in the sense that yeah I think it's ridiculous to react that way to a cartoon but I also don't think draw Muhammad day or burning the Quran is a very productive response. It's just antagonism for the sake of antagonism..

even that is an over simplification imo. Religious intolerance isn't solely a response to discrimination or even foreign policy. Those are part of the recipe but not the entire thing.

In the case of the cartoons in France and the reaction it got, bringing up colonialism or discrimination as the root cause is a way of deflecting from the elephant in the room which is that France is a secular country with values that might clash with a more conservative version of Islamic values. That's an uncomfortable conversation for obvious reasons but you can't ignore it.

But like I said before the answer is also not to get rid of or discriminate against Muslims. The ironic part is that's exactly what terrorist groups want France to do. They want them to alienate their Muslim population so they have a breeding ground for fresh recruits. They want the west to burn. They don't want us to be nicer to Muslims living here.