Music Banter - Islam in Europe

Geez buttlord, ain’t you paying attention? Random discrimination against various groups is 100% not racist unless the discrimination is just centered on one group and said group is a recognized racial group. The gingers in this thread have been over this several times; this is why their naked bigotry against Muslims makes them not racist. Also, they have a Muslim friend (tm); who’s not like the others Muslims.

Frownland

11-16-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1895697)

so again never

Nah they happen upon it occasionally and both sides quite plainly do it.

Frownland

11-16-2017 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1895701)

they do like the one where white people also get shot by cops

but when it comes to the narrative on Muslims/Islam from the right, the origin is so painfully clear that I did find it funny that statistics would be mentioned

Wage gap.

Goofle

11-16-2017 09:36 PM

Lets be honest, the left and the right (using those terms socially, not economically) have their fair share of narratives that they like to push.

Frownland

11-16-2017 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1895705)

the counter to the wage gap statistic assumes that the only way it could be bad is if it were 100% the result of male bosses just paying women less or that the 30 cents less on the dollar stat is trying to imply anything like that

which is curious because feminism has always been as much concerned with societal norms as bondage as it is with direct efforts from men in power (which still shouldn't be understated)

Yes there's some validity to that as I've mentioned before, but when mentioned the wage gap is still wielded exactly in the way that you say is the strawman so....

I mean I wouldn't bring it up as an example of the left using statistics solely because they're convenient for their narrative for no reason.

hip hop bunny hop

11-16-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1895697)

so again never

Are you a trot? Really would explain a lot.

Frownland

11-16-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1895709)

I always took it as a declaration of a problem

Fun.

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"the narrative" comes from it being true unfortunately

And this brings us back to people working backwards from their ideologies when determining the objectivity of a statistic.

Frownland

11-16-2017 10:25 PM

*bwom bwom bwoooooooom*

Neapolitan

11-16-2017 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1895727)

when being serious I wouldn't identify as any dead guy's last name but I certainly am the most sympathetic to Trotsky when talking about Marxists

See comrade we are not that unlike. We both have something in common, we are both sympathetic. I am sympathetic towards the 94 million people who died under communism.

hip hop bunny hop

11-16-2017 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1895731)

See comrade we are not that unlike. We both have something in common, we are both sympathetic. I am sympathetic towards the 94 million people who died under communism.

Because the regimes replaced by communist state regimes were perfect; because after the official assumption of power by a new regime, the old one dies off completely and never attempts to reassert itself (see; the south defeating reconstruction)....

I mean, do we reaaaaaallllyyyy need to point out that many of those killed by communism were nazis, Japanese imperialists, South African bigots etc....

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