Islam in Europe

Mindy · 09-20-2017, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Someone aged 20 is not a child.

is that video true?

edit: cool new avy trollheart

**Frownland** · 09-20-2017, 06:11 PM

That video's almost ten years old

Muslim Demographics

Trollheart · 09-20-2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

is that video true?

edit: cool new avy trollheart

Thanks man!

For those interested:
http://www.janditlev.com/pages/about-5

Mindy · 09-20-2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That video's almost ten years old

Muslim Demographics

damn that link even says its false, must be true.

thanks frownland

Mindy · 09-20-2017, 06:28 PM

heres what they are saying at Oxford

Aloysius · 09-20-2017, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Can you elaborate mate I'm interested.

I guess the first thing I noticed was a constant divisiveness. Even in the relatively peaceful Meccan verses believers are constantly praised and non-believers (including all other religions) are demonised. Then in the more violent (Medina based) verses there are outright calls to violence. The two sets of verses correspond to two phases of Muhammad’s life, in Mecca Muhammad and his followers were under attack from more powerful foes and fought in self defence, in Medina they had grown more powerful and had an expansionist military agenda.

How to reconcile the earlier (relatively) peaceful verses with the later violent ones? The Quran itself has an answer for that - several verses specifically dictate a doctrine of abrogation, that a later verse will always negate an earlier one. Violent jihadists are not acting out of any sort of unusual interpretation of islam, they are simply following the instructions of the Quran and the Hadiths.

I don’t believe that a Muslim is inherently bad - it’s actually an incredible testament to the good side of human nature that the vast majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world will directly disobey their holy book by not fighting disbelievers and killing apostates.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-21-2017, 08:38 AM

Good post imo mate.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-22-2017, 11:27 AM

Parsons Green attack: 18-year-old Ahmed Hassan charged with terror bombing on Tube train | The Independent

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Parsons Green attack: 18-year-old Ahmed Hassan charged with terror bombing on Tube train

Teenager is first suspect charged in connection with attempted bombing that injured 30 victims

The 18-year-old man has been charged with carrying out the attempted bombing on a London Tube train.

Ahmed Hassan, of Sunbury-on-Thames, is accused of attempted murder and explosives offences over the terror attack.

The Iraqi refugee spoke only to confirm his name, date of birth and address during a hearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

**Frownland** · 09-22-2017, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

just know the majority of Muslims disagree with your interpretation

your interpretation is not wrong no one's interpretation can be wrong

but Muslims do not "directly disobey" the Koran by using something called C O N T E X T

There's crazy diversity in the translations since it's derived from archaic Arabic, so it's more likely that the interpretation is more the translator's than Alyo's.

OccultHawk · 09-22-2017, 05:02 PM

For ****'s sake it's a **** religion. I wouldn't be surprised if you find a way to interpret that as meaning it's not a **** religion.

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09-22-2017, 05:02 PM	#1300 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	For **'s sake it's a religion. I wouldn't be surprised if you find a way to interpret that as meaning it's not a ** religion. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

09-21-2017, 08:38 AM	#1297 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Good post imo mate.