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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1875591)

Someone aged 20 is not a child.

is that video true? https://boxden.com/smilies/iPxMQUI.png

edit: cool new avy trollheart

That video's almost ten years old

Muslim Demographics

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 1875592)

is that video true? https://boxden.com/smilies/iPxMQUI.png

edit: cool new avy trollheart

Thanks man! :thumb:

For those interested:
http://www.janditlev.com/pages/about-5

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1875594)

That video's almost ten years old

Muslim Demographics

http://i.imgur.com/kYdwc9J.png damn that link even says its false, must be true.

thanks frownland

heres what they are saying at Oxford https://boxden.com/smilies/ipP2e87.png

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1875441)

Can you elaborate mate I'm interested.

I guess the first thing I noticed was a constant divisiveness. Even in the relatively peaceful Meccan verses believers are constantly praised and non-believers (including all other religions) are demonised. Then in the more violent (Medina based) verses there are outright calls to violence. The two sets of verses correspond to two phases of Muhammad’s life, in Mecca Muhammad and his followers were under attack from more powerful foes and fought in self defence, in Medina they had grown more powerful and had an expansionist military agenda.

How to reconcile the earlier (relatively) peaceful verses with the later violent ones? The Quran itself has an answer for that - several verses specifically dictate a doctrine of abrogation, that a later verse will always negate an earlier one. Violent jihadists are not acting out of any sort of unusual interpretation of islam, they are simply following the instructions of the Quran and the Hadiths.

I don’t believe that a Muslim is inherently bad - it’s actually an incredible testament to the good side of human nature that the vast majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world will directly disobey their holy book by not fighting disbelievers and killing apostates.

Parsons Green attack: 18-year-old Ahmed Hassan charged with terror bombing on Tube train | The Independent

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Parsons Green attack: 18-year-old Ahmed Hassan charged with terror bombing on Tube train

Teenager is first suspect charged in connection with attempted bombing that injured 30 victims

The 18-year-old man has been charged with carrying out the attempted bombing on a London Tube train.

Ahmed Hassan, of Sunbury-on-Thames, is accused of attempted murder and explosives offences over the terror attack.

The Iraqi refugee spoke only to confirm his name, date of birth and address during a hearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1876109)

just know the majority of Muslims disagree with your interpretation

your interpretation is not wrong no one's interpretation can be wrong

but Muslims do not "directly disobey" the Koran by using something called C O N T E X T

There's crazy diversity in the translations since it's derived from archaic Arabic, so it's more likely that the interpretation is more the translator's than Alyo's.

For ****'s sake it's a **** religion. I wouldn't be surprised if you find a way to interpret that as meaning it's not a **** religion.