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Old 04-10-2017, 01:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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you have no understanding of Islam whatsoever
And considering you seem to defend it with such loyalty, neither do you kemosabe.
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I got my money on elph being more informed on the religion. I'm sure you have good intentions Ziggy but your posts read like you get your info from a lot of incredibly biased sources, as evidenced by your posting of the religion of peace website.
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I got my money on elph being more informed on the religion. I'm sure you have good intentions Ziggy but your posts read like you get your info from a lot of incredibly biased sources, as evidenced by your posting of the religion of peace website.
Then why defend it?

I don't get all my religious information from one website btw dude not to mention the second website linked that no one criticised had the same level of statitics
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You language and perspectives read like what I've described. .

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Then why defend it?
Scapegoating any kind of group is no bueno as far as I'm concerned.
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I'm not out to defend religion

I'm just out to point out the truth here

But I don't think some of you understand that the texts of the 3 big religions are products of their times (where for example 9 would have been considered an acceptable age) and are tales meant to raise the spirits of the poor and oppressed against the will of the oppressor
Indeed they are of their time so surely you agree there is no justification of someone who practices and believes every part (good and bad) of these religions right?

eg. you surely would agree that someone raping a 9 year old because it's considered justified by a book written thousands of years ago is wrong
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How cool is it to see Pet Sounds grow up into a well reasoned and rational man right before our very eyes. Brings a lump to my throat.

Seriously, great debate points PS.
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Seriously, great debate points PS.
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Ofc not, but there is much significance in understanding product of its times

you understand its only places that have a culture that already accepts these things that use a literal translation

There are secular countries that are majority Muslim
I personally think the history is more significant of understanding than the religion
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