Then this place is in a sadder state than I had thought.

Oh, and he doesn't like being called Neap. Apparently.

I honestly think that they people on the left are just as stupid as those on the right, especially on the subject of islam. I have read parts of the qu'ran that are deeply troubling, so to say it isn't a religious problem is absolute denialism. But to insinuate that all muslims are bad is outrageous and ****ing ignorant.(its what ISIS want). The truth, like most things,
lies somewhere in the middle. But I am open to being completely wrong, as I have found I usually am in my life.

Nah, I reckon you're spot on

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EDIT: Though just want to point out, I have never seen the 'all Muslims' thing, people keep bringing it up but where is it happening? Any time you see vocal critics of Islam in the media they will pretty much always say the majority of Muslims are peaceful people.

Not only that, muslim communities make massive efforts to distance themselves from the extremists, to point out clearly that what the terrorists and hate preachers say is not what they as peaceful muslims believe. So it's not like you can say you're not getting it, as it were, from the horse's mouth.

(As long as it's halal, I guess....)
:shycouch:

Ja there's plenty of awful stuff in the Q'uran, but zeroing in on those would mean ignoring the conflicting verses that make up much more of the book. That's the logic I've heard from Muslims regarding extremism.

Anyone here seen Four Lions?

Islam has a history of being a highly interpretative and metaphoric religion mostly because the Q'uran was originally written in a type of formal Arabic hardly anyone understood.

Really sick of this "Islamic" front the world is buying into to be honest.

Well you only have yourself to blame. I told you to put them in separate cages!

Shut up and go watch the movie, unless you want it to become the new Office Space around here.

It is pretty hilarious. Like the three stooges but they're terrorists.

Maybe that remaining one percent hasn't been vaccinated.

My question there would be Africa. I'm far from educated on the matter so it's a legit question, but both Islam and Christianity seem to be pretty hardline and violent in those parts, or at least in the parts that get press, and yet the muslims seem to get involved with terrorism while the Christians console themselves with just murdering gays in the streets.

That might be a complete misrepresentation, but it's the gist I get.

The culture one is raised in obviously influences religious practice and interpretation to a large extent. Muslims in the west are largely secular because most western countries are secular.
What I more wanted to get into, was what factors you think puts western muslims at risk of radicalization, and why do they not become conducive to violent extremism when applied to non-muslims?

Never tried to argue any such thing

No. When I said "violent extremism" I wasn't referring exclusively to islamic extremism.

It's certainly a travesty when it is slander and it's done to ruin the good reputation of someone who is not a bigot.

Yeah because having a tarnished reputation is just as horrible as being discriminated against. :banghead:

Waaah my reputation is tarnished. What a privileged complaint.

Four Lions is freaking beyond hilarious. You simply must sit back and enjoy this movie. Classic.

Strange post.

Making accusations against somebody with no justification and then basically saying they can't complain about it because of 'privilege' :rolleyes: is unbelievably cuntish.

They can complain about anything they want but it still isn't the same as actually being held back from certain things due to discrimination and prejudice

The word privilege just has you triggered.

So when African Americans who have to deal with a tarnish reputation because of stereotypes your reply would be "Waaah my reputation is tarnished." Profiling is OK because if someone complain about being unfairly targeted because that group has a bad reputation your response would be "Waaah my reputation is tarnished."

If you can't afford one man the dignity of a good reputation how can you afford to give respect to a whole groups of people? ... or (if you're in the habit of thinking only about race) give respect to a whole race of people? To justify the hatred you have for someone by simply labeling him or her a "bigot" then commence hating them, you become the very person you hate. "Let no man pull you so low as to hate him."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

They also conveniently forget that he was all for people rioting and destroying property but that gets swept under the rug as well. He understood why people riot. Why the voiceless get frustrated to the point where they channel their frustration through rioting.

Also Nea you are still trying to comparing prejudices and stereotypes to a tarnished reputation. Two completely different experiences also you make it seem like I think it is okay to do run someone's name through the mud. I am just saying it isn't as bad as actually getting arrested through profiling and being prevented basic necessities that you take for granted like housing and jobs.

Sorta like using him to peddle Marxism?

awh snap

Yeah I'm not his biographer but I'm vaguely aware that he had some kind of socialist leanings. My point is that you're now using that as a feather in your communist cap to show off to the world while condemning people basically doing the same thing.

Kurdish Refugee Killed by Arabs in Germany for Smoking during Ramadan - basnews

Such a horrible story. The man escapes from the chaos and violence in Syria only to meet up with it in Germany. My heart goes out to his family and friends.

I wonder if anyone was murdered this year for not doing Easter?

I wonder how many Amish get wasted for not raising a barn.

Looks like grampa went out for a walk and got lost again. :rolleyes: The murder the little boy is a "witness" to took place in Philadelphia, not Lancaster Co. It wasn't Amish on Amish crime.

London Bridge attack: Six dead, 48 injured in eight minutes of terror | Metro News

Please end the madness.

That's very Christian of you to ask politely.

It'll never end.

If it's not the Christian crusaders literally wading ankle-deep in innocent blood as they sacked Jerusalem in 1099, it's the Muslims today.

Come quickly, Lord Jesus! Show us how utter destruction is really done.

what about Godzilla killing all those innocent japs

A warm-up.

But they did raise a barn in Amish country. Try to keep up.

There are no innocent Japs.

Three attacks in three months is ridiculous. I wonder where it's all gonna end up. It cannot continue surely.

I will continue to happen again and again and again unless our government stops pussyfooting around, calls the problem what it is and clamps down hard on it

Did you see the guy on Sky News. Said the government is lying about extra police, he didn't hold back about cuts. Just dropped it there, "no they are lying".