Music Banter - Islam in Europe

"Tis easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Paradise".

That's not as easy as it sounds! The amount of camels I went through: the League Against Cruelty to Dromedaries is still after me!

Frownland

08-29-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1868529)

"Tis easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Paradise".

I always took this to mean that the rich have to die and be put through a blender before they can reach heaven.

The Batlord

08-29-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 1868521)

Is it better for a ruler to be feared or loved. Machiavelli came down on the side of fear (I happen to think he was right for the time in which he lived).

I'm not familiar with objectionable practices in Judaism outside things like circumcision. From what I understand the ultra-Orthodox are very insular. What makes Judaism repulsive to you?

Christianity and Islam both have some moral evolution from the fear god of the Old Testament/Torah. That god is pretty terrifying and the worst kind of god that could be worshipped. The straight old school barbarism.

Trollheart

08-29-2017 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1868536)

I always took this to mean that the rich have to die and be put through a blender before they can reach heaven.

That, too. And the number of blenders I've ruined on THAT experiment...
Oh ****! Didn't see the bit about having to die first.... ;)

Neapolitan

09-04-2017 10:56 AM

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Europe: Jihadists Posing as Migrants
"More than 50,000 jihadists are now living in Europe."

by Soeren Kern
September 3, 2017 at 6:00 am

Europe: Jihadists Posing as Migrants
"More than 50,000 jihadists are now living in Europe."
Europol, the European police office, has identified at least 30,000 active jihadist websites, but EU legislation no longer requires internet service providers to collect and preserve metadata — including data on the location of jihadists — from their customers due to privacy concerns. De Kerchove said this was hindering the ability of police to identify and deter jihadists.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...dists-migrants

The Batlord

09-04-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1870649)

Also Idk if most of you know this but Muslims are followers of Christ as well they just think Mohamed was the latest prophet

Where they differ on Jesus is Muslims don't believe in Original Sin (one of the grossest parts of Christianity really) and thus don't put emphasis on the crucification or believe Jesus "died for our sins"

Like I said Idk if this is common knowledge or not, but most of you haven't a clue what's in Islam as your entire understanding comes from critics

I knew about the Jesus as prophet thing, but not the Original Sin thing. Nice to know that an Abrahamic religion doesn't start out by calling its followers subhuman scum who should all burn in hell but God's such a nice guy that he's still looking out for us despite his better judgement.

Blue Hawk

09-04-2017 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1868551)

Not true. In the Old Testament you can see normal people, longing for normal life ( to have a spouse, property etc). In the New Testament there are only dreamers with 'spiritual' pipe dreams and illusions.

The Batlord

09-04-2017 12:07 PM

And there are also people willing to murder their children just cause God said so, but it's okay he really didn't mean it, he just wanted to traumatize the poor guy to stroke his ego. And... that one guy who got eaten by a whale... that sounds pretty not cool.

Blue Hawk

09-04-2017 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1870664)

Please read this Letters from the Earth by Mark Twain: Letter X

The Batlord

09-04-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Hawk (Post 1870677)

Please read this Letters from the Earth by Mark Twain: Letter X

tldr, Marky Mark

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