4chan, memes, language, Trump, alt-right, etc.

Trollheart · 03-13-2017, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What's wrong with the BBC? One of the more reliable sources in the game.

Come on: it was a ****ty computer.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 03-13-2017, 03:01 PM

ffs

Trollheart · 03-13-2017, 07:05 PM

Riseagainstrocks, without quoting your whole post, just wanted to say that though this is way above my head, you certainly have a way with words, with explaining and arguing issues, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were a college lecturer or professor or something. I reckon you and innerspaceboy could talk long into the night. Excellent posts.

Neapolitan · 03-13-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Riseagainstrocks, without quoting your whole post, just wanted to say that though this is way above my head, you certainly have a way with words, with explaining and arguing issues, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were a college lecturer or professor or something. I reckon you and innerspaceboy could talk long into the night. Excellent posts.

It's style over substance. I first became suspect of this when I came across the word "myopia" in the opening post.

~~normalMBuser~~ · 03-14-2017, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Yes, yes, we have a thread that has touched on these topics, but the 'What did Trump do now' thread has become unwieldy.

The article above, while not exactingly correct in it's timeline of 4chan, raises some very interesting points about the sociological motivations behind a lot of the trolling "culture" that has grown exponentially. As a former 16 year angsty troll, I absolutely thought that women would never want anything to do with me, that metal music and video games were solely the domain of men, and that casually saying 'f@g' or 'whore' as insults were funny and shouldn't be construed as sexist or homophobic. Some strong cognitive dissonance there, huh?

But I was also 16, and have grown far past such myopia. The question is, why haven't others? I know we have some MAGA/MRA types on the board, and I would appreciate some honest discussion about the points raised in the article. I legitimately have a list, but let's see if things come up organically.

link was tl:dr atm

saying *** is perfectly acceptable as long as you say it right

the left wants to continue to pretend that it can only ever be a homophobic slur, ignoring the fact that *** has been used in other ways for a very long time now

they essentially rule out any other possible interpretation of the word, despite colloquial use, because ultimately their dictionary is derived from their ideology rather than from a genuine attempt to communicate honestly

as neo-stalinist swine, they predictably assert that reality must conform to ideology, and incessantly work to stamp out, shame and silence any signs of evidence to the contrary

riseagainstrocks · 03-14-2017, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

It's style over substance. I first became suspect of this when I came across the word "myopia" in the opening post.

Please, critique the substance.

And once again, multiple dictionaries disagree with your assertion that I misused "myopia". I'm honestly not sure if this is some "trolling" game you play because the point is so belabored and obviously wrong.

Myopic | Define Myopic at Dictionary.com
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myopic

But don't let me stop you making an ass of yourself.

Thanks, Trollheart. I studied writing and rhetoric in college. I find analogy and example to be better tools of persuasion than simple recitation of facts, which while important, seem to count for less these days. It's all about trying to shift someone's perspective, even if only for the space of a post on MB.

Neapolitan · 03-14-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Please, critique the substance.

And once again, multiple dictionaries disagree with your assertion that I misused "myopia". I'm honestly not sure if this is some "trolling" game you play because the point is so belabored and obviously wrong.

Myopic | Define Myopic at Dictionary.com
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myopic

But don't let me stop you making an ass of yourself.

Thanks, Trollheart. I studied writing and rhetoric in college. I find analogy and example to be better tools of persuasion than simple recitation of facts, which while important, seem to count for less these days. It's all about trying to shift someone's perspective, even if only for the space of a post on MB.

I am afraid that your assertion that "the dictionaries disagree with your assertion" is wrong, because the dictionary only reiterates my assertion that "myopia" is a condition of the eye.

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1. Ophthalmology. a condition of the eye in which parallel rays are focused in front of the retina, objects being seen distinctly only when near to the eye; nearsightedness (opposed to hyperopia ).

riseagainstrocks · 03-14-2017, 03:22 PM

No critique of any argument I've made. Check.

Continual misrepresentation of what I said, including purposefully cutting the quote short to make it look like I said myopia is not an eye condition (your assertion is that I misused myopia, not that I denied it has more than one meaning). Check.

Myopic view of the definition of myopia (OMG HATE CRIME), ignoring definitions 2 and 3 of the first link and definition 2 of the second link. Check.

Well, pat yourself on the back, because the troll worked? I engaged.

**Frownland** · 03-14-2017, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

myopia is not an eye condition

What are you going on about?

Myopia (Nearsightedness) Definition, Causes and Treatment

Trollheart · 03-14-2017, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

It's style over substance. I first became suspect of this when I came across the word "myopia" in the opening post.

What is it with you and "myopia"? Why has it to be yours? Opia should be for all - your opia, her opia, their opia ... this possessiveness and greed for opia is frankly frightening...

03-13-2017, 07:05 PM	#153 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Riseagainstrocks, without quoting your whole post, just wanted to say that though this is way above my head, you certainly have a way with words, with explaining and arguing issues, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were a college lecturer or professor or something. I reckon you and innerspaceboy could talk long into the night. Excellent posts. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	No critique of any argument I've made. Check. Continual misrepresentation of what I said, including purposefully cutting the quote short to make it look like I said myopia is not an eye condition (your assertion is that I misused myopia, not that I denied it has more than one meaning). Check. Myopic view of the definition of myopia (OMG HATE CRIME), ignoring definitions 2 and 3 of the first link and definition 2 of the second link. Check. Well, pat yourself on the back, because the troll worked? I engaged. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

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