Science!

DwnWthVwls · 04-11-2019, 06:34 PM

So I have the free will to pick my pasta? Which side are you on, Lord of Bats?

Also, than*

OccultHawk · 04-11-2019, 07:13 PM

Bat

How close are you to being like well you’re not smart enough get back to me if you ever get there?

You’re literally defending cause and effect to an endless barrage of prove it.

Sometimes you don’t need science anymore. Any subject no matter how obvious and perfectly established can constantly be attacked and more and more “science” can be demanded endlessly. Actually, that’s why it’s a litmus test issue.

The Batlord · 04-11-2019, 07:26 PM

It's not a question of intelligence, but I'm stymied about how I'm not getting through. People just be so attached to being people that they can't admit the sky's blue. I mean I think the reason I'm so ready to accept it is that I'm so depersonalized that thinking that I'm nothing isn't much of a stretch. People with real self-esteem are naturally going to be harder to convince.

OccultHawk · 04-11-2019, 07:36 PM

You “accept” it because it’s clear and obvious.

DwnWthVwls · 04-11-2019, 07:39 PM

so i dont have free will to decide elbows or shells?

DwnWthVwls · 04-11-2019, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

It's not a question of intelligence, but I'm stymied about how I'm not getting through. People just be so attached to being people that they can't admit the sky's blue. I mean I think the reason I'm so ready to accept it is that I'm so depersonalized that thinking that I'm nothing isn't much of a stretch. People with real self-esteem are naturally going to be harder to convince.

So are skeptics when you cant justify your belief with evidence. Every other example on OHs list has evidence.

OccultHawk · 04-11-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

so i dont have free will to decide elbows or shells?

Of course not

**Frownland** · 04-11-2019, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

Alright let's take this post you made in the Free Will thread.

In order for an action to be cancelled it must either be mathematically predictable, which cancels out free will, or it must be decided essentially by a random number generator, which also cancels out free will because then no decision is being made. You're simply a victim of literal chaos. You're a ship adrift on an ocean with no engine, no oars, no sail, no rudder, and the ocean isn't even an ocean because the movement of water is defined by math so it's nothing more than an abstract nothingness where anything and everything are possible. There is no middle ground where free will is allowed to exist.

Well if it's complex and seemingly frivolous then clearly no math is involved.

I will concede that our brains are predictably wired to make decisions.

DwnWthVwls · 04-11-2019, 07:48 PM

Cool. Now demonstrate why.

**Frownland** · 04-11-2019, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Cool. Now demonstrate why.

Our neurons interact in a certain manner to effect bodily processes when a range of processes are available.

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	You “accept” it because it’s clear and obvious. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html