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Old 12-07-2019, 09:15 PM   #631 (permalink)
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No they werent.. There was one openly gay kid in my school who got heat from a few people but was mostly left alone and this whole gender identity discussion had not yet become a part of our culture. People still got bullied but not for the same things kids are getting bullied for today.

And if you ask how I know, its cause my HS was only about 400 kids total and everyone knew everyone for the most part.
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:45 AM   #632 (permalink)
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Gender identity was not a thing when I was a kid, but that didn't stop people from bullying kids who did not conform to gender norms. I'm sure it was the same in your school. The identity discussion did not exist, but people with different gender identities did (they just didn't have the name for it yet), and they were bullied for it (or rather, bullied for not conforming to gender norms, but that amounts to the same thing)

Gender and sexuality have always been a big thing, only now it is discussed in a new way. And everyone in all of history always gets bullied for the same things: not conforming and being vulnerable
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Old 12-08-2019, 04:43 AM   #633 (permalink)
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Im sure it would have been the same in my school, but im telling you it wasnt something that ever happened. Im sure there were probably some people in the closet about it, but like I said we had one openly gay student, and everyone else was pretty "normal". People were separated by their attire and music choices but I cant recall any gender identity issues, ever.. You had the wannabe gangster kids, metalheads, "the trenchcoat mafia", the polocks, the 101 crew, and whatever else.. but there was never any nail painting or untraditional masculine/feminine traits that kids got bullied over. Oh and TONS of racism...

Not that it's the same but even the girl who was open about having a puke fetish never got picked on for it.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:41 PM   #634 (permalink)
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It must not have existed if you didn't personally witness it in your high school years.

Anyways, saying that sexual attraction is based on traditional gender expression and not physical sex just gives more power to the social influences of gender. It's all person to person, but even if you're the type to make sure that you're personally compatible with someone before you can confirm that you're attracted to them, the diversity of what can be masculine or feminine still makes their gender identity more or less irrelevant. Also, elphenor's pointing to conformity to social gender norms as evidence of their necessity in sexual selection is blatantly circular reasoning from where I'm sitting, but I wouldn't really expect anything less from a misogynist.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:06 PM   #635 (permalink)
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It must not have existed if you didn't personally witness it in your high school years.
Yeah, reading back I should have made it more clear I was speaking about my personal experience, not in general.
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Anyways, saying that sexual attraction is based on traditional gender expression and not physical sex just gives more power to the social influences of gender.
Hey, that's true. Interesting
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I don't believe it's necessary in that it couldn't be done differently
Then how is it essential?
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Pulleys bitches.

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and something a little more complex:

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Old 12-23-2019, 03:13 PM   #640 (permalink)
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Simple's good too.
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